What makes y'all think that Harrison Bailey

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I want the best for the team...now, coaches, earn your money and may the best QB win the start...:D

PS. QB position is as mental as it is physical...we'll see what happens, and as always...

GO BIG ORANGE!
 
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It's going to be a weird QB competition next year.

JG obviously has the leg-up right now, but there's a case for why all 5 scholarship QBs could win the job. I don't ever recall a situation similar to this.

JG. Most experienced. Strong arm. Typically doesn't make big mistakes (albeit he struggled in this department early in the season). Not going to take over a game by himself, but certainly capable of making big throws.

Maurer. Arguably the highest upside. Great scramber / improviser; has some Josh Dobbs like attributes. Most likely of the QBs to win a game that may otherwise be unwinnable. Biggest issue was turnovers and decision-making, but if he can get that under control, he may be the best QB on the roster.

Shrout. Arguably the highest upside for a pro-style passer. May have one of the strongest arms in college football. Still struggles with decision-making, but if Shrout improves his accuracy and limits his mistakes, he may also be the best QB on the roster.

Bailey. Blue-chip Freshman QB who put up very impressive numbers against good competition. Don't know how he'll adjust to the college game, but similar QBs out of Georgia have all fared very well (e.g. Fromm, Lawrence). Probably our most highly touted QB recruit since Peyton Manning.

Hill. Probably the least likely to win the job, but he does have a lot of experience as a starting QB. Biggest issue was accuracy and turnovers. Better scrambler than JG. I think he might've gotten a shot this year had he been eligible, but will be tougher for him to get playing time next year.

I still think JG wins the job, but we've seen over the past 2 years that he struggles with consistency. If Bailey comes in and looks as good as some think, he may take over. Also if Maurer comes back and cleans up his mistakes, he may take over. Then again, maybe things finally click for JG next year and we get more games like the SC, Miss State, and Mizzou games this year from him.

It seems everyone takes it for granted that JG is coming back.. Have I missed something? Has he said "I'am coming back for another year"? He has/will graduated this month has't/won't he? Why play just to be playing, to me he has no chance at a pro career, to me needs to just get on with his life and be a Vol For Life.
 
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I’m different than most on here I hope HB comes in takes the job and runs with it”I’ve seen him on film and he has the talent just got to take it up a notch and on to the next level...GBO
 
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The most comparable scenario I can think of, in terms of sheer numbers at the quarterback position, would be 1994. Jerry Colquitt enters the season as the clear-cut no. 1 but goes down with a season-ending injury on the first offensive possession against UCLA. Soon thereafter, Todd Helton sustains an injury. Subsequently, Peyton and Branndon Stewart are left to battle it out for the starting role. Ultimately, a legend was born and Stewart transfers.

So, in theory, it isn’t possible to have too much competition at that position, given the fact that a crowded depth chart can change very quickly. And that doesn’t factor into the equation the fact that quarterbacks are much quicker to pull the transfer trigger than they were even 10 years ago.

My question, however, for anyone close to Bailey’s recruitment would be this: By all accounts, he has all the physical tools to be an outstanding quarterback, but what is his reputation in terms of his dedication to the cerebral art of mastering his craft, particularly with respect to analysis of opposing defenses?

As we all remember, Peyton always had the talent to play this position at a very high level, but the attribute that truly and quickly set him apart was his work ethic and dedication to analysis of the game. Of course, it never hurt to have a Hall of Fame-caliber quarterback as his father.
 
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It seems everyone takes it for granted that JG is coming back.. Have I missed something? Has he said "I'am coming back for another year"? He has/will graduated this month has't/won't he? Why play just to be playing, to me he has no chance at a pro career, to me needs to just get on with his life and be a Vol For Life.
I may be wrong, and I am sure I will corrected if I am, I believe he made the statement that he intended to come back in the interview on the field after the Mizzou game. Could have just been the emotion of the moment. Can anyone confirm that?
 
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I may be wrong, and I am sure I will corrected if I am, I believe he made the statement that he intended to come back in the interview on the field after the Mizzou game. Could have just been the emotion of the moment. Can anyone confirm that?

As everyone "counts him in" for next year, what you heard about a statement must be true.
 
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Wont redshirt? It's hard for me to believe that he would unseat JG preseason and if JG doesn't regress again, at all. Then you have Hill who has experience and Maurer who has enough experience and shown flashes. Is HB supposed to be that awesome right out of the gate?
Wouldn't it make sense for CJP to plan to redshirt him if he's behind JG but equal to the others and next year he only has Maurer to worry about? Maurer could transfer anyway.
Just want yalls thoughts who think HB will be at least the #2 guy. (And I'll understand if this gets moved to the similar QB thread going on)
He could win the job at Spring practice or become at least the number two which would mean no redshirt. If neither of those happen he could definitely redshirt.
 
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Bailey. Blue-chip Freshman QB who put up very impressive numbers against good competition. Don't know how he'll adjust to the college game, but similar QBs out of Georgia have all fared very well (e.g. Fromm, Lawrence). Probably our most highly touted QB recruit since Peyton Manning.
Really?
 
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I don't think JG is the answer, his lows are much lower than his highs are high.

While I will always say that football is a team game you can't tell me that JG was not responsible for the BYU loss and the possible upset of Alabama.

This team should have won 9 games this year and a win over Bama would have been a huge get for this coaching staff in recruiting.
He is responsible for the Georgia State loss. That pick he threw killed us.
 
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JG will be starter next year. His experience combined with another off season in Chaney's system will solidify that. Is Bailey talented with what appears to be potentially great upside? YES! However, a step up to SEC is a major jump compared to HS ball, even when you've played against good competition. Everybody is bigger, faster, stronger. Let's keep in mind Bailey also had 3 D1 WR's to throw to, including 5 star man child Arik Gilbert. I expect great things from Bailey at Tenn, just probably not next year barring unforeseen circumstances.
 
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He is responsible for the Georgia State loss. That pick he threw killed us.

Also the 38 points and 213 rushing yards given up by the defense, the meager 93 yards rushing generated by our offense, and a fumble by Ty Chandler ... but yeah ... it was all on JG.

Still crazy to me people are trying to 100% blame Ga State on JG. The BYU loss makes sense, because JG played one of the worst games of his career and missed several wide open receivers on big plays that would've likely resulted in scores. JG didn't play great against Ga State, but he was far from the biggest problem in that game.
 
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Also the 38 points and 213 rushing yards given up by the defense, the meager 93 yards rushing generated by our offense, and a fumble by Ty Chandler ... but yeah ... it was all on JG.

Still crazy to me people are trying to 100% blame Ga State on JG. The BYU loss makes sense, because JG played one of the worst games of his career and missed several wide open receivers on big plays that would've likely resulted in scores. JG didn't play great against Ga State, but he was far from the biggest problem in that game.
We still would have defeated BYU if Alontae Taylor didn't get burned. Far too much went wrong early in the season to blame any one player for any loss, but fans tend to need a scapegoat.
 
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Wont redshirt? It's hard for me to believe that he would unseat JG preseason and if JG doesn't regress again, at all. Then you have Hill who has experience and Maurer who has enough experience and shown flashes. Is HB supposed to be that awesome right out of the gate?
Wouldn't it make sense for CJP to plan to redshirt him if he's behind JG but equal to the others and next year he only has Maurer to worry about? Maurer could transfer anyway.
Just want yalls thoughts who think HB will be at least the #2 guy. (And I'll understand if this gets moved to the similar QB thread going on)
Bailey is a different level of player.
 
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If it weren’t for people knit picking he’d be arguably the best pure passer coming out of HS.

He’ll be an absolute baller and do great things at Tennessee. Whatever the coaches decide it’s probably best for business
 
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As we all remember, Peyton always had the talent to play this position at a very high level, but the attribute that truly and quickly set him apart was his work ethic and dedication to analysis of the game. Of course, it never hurt to have a Hall of Fame-caliber quarterback as his father.

and Peyton had the QB whisperer as an OC in Cutcliffe, something TN hasn't had in a while.

as far as BH and starting, I'm ready for JG to move on, he is mentally inconsistent and has cost the team wins. Nice to see the rally this year, but I'm hoping TN doesn't start the season assuming he's #1, or if we do, have a much shorter leash. As in pull him at half of game one if he is giving the game away.

I know most of us don't like dual QB situations, it reminds me of the Ainge/Schaeffer year, and that resolved itself quickly and for the team's benefit.
 
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The truth about it all, we really don't know. Until the kid gets on campus and competes, not even the coaches know what he can do. Talking about it now is pointless.
 
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You could switch Maurer and Hill's evaluation and still be correct minus the amount of starts. Both struggle with accuracy and turnovers. Things that will keep them on the bench.
I swear you have accuracy and decision making confused with one another yet somehow intertwined them. BM is arguably the MOST accurate of them all, including HB. He’s proved it time and time again by hitting receivers in stride with no adjustments needed to create YAC. Decision making is where he falls short and JG excels (IF he’s on his game). I don’t give a damn what your stats say. YOU only include the ones that help your bias. You can preach all you wish about 2 tds and 5 ints but everyone knows rushing tds count for 6 as well. We all also know 1 of those ints was on JJ. We all know he’s thrown the ball away quite a few times and there have also been quite a few drops so you can shove that 47% up your a** as well. I can guarantee you in opposing defensive meetings they are being told they better stick to their man tighter with Maurer in the game because it’s a rarity that he misses. That’s accuracy.
 
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You could switch Maurer and Hill's evaluation and still be correct minus the amount of starts. Both struggle with accuracy and turnovers. Things that will keep them on the bench.
Why is JG not included here ? You can’t seriously believe he doesn’t!
 
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Wont redshirt? It's hard for me to believe that he would unseat JG preseason and if JG doesn't regress again, at all. Then you have Hill who has experience and Maurer who has enough experience and shown flashes. Is HB supposed to be that awesome right out of the gate?
Wouldn't it make sense for CJP to plan to redshirt him if he's behind JG but equal to the others and next year he only has Maurer to worry about? Maurer could transfer anyway.
Just want yalls thoughts who think HB will be at least the #2 guy. (And I'll understand if this gets moved to the similar QB thread going on)
He'll play in 4 games and redshirt imo.
 
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It's going to be a weird QB competition next year.

JG obviously has the leg-up right now, but there's a case for why all 5 scholarship QBs could win the job. I don't ever recall a situation similar to this.

JG. Most experienced. Strong arm. Typically doesn't make big mistakes (albeit he struggled in this department early in the season). Not going to take over a game by himself, but certainly capable of making big throws.

Maurer. Arguably the highest upside. Great scramber / improviser; has some Josh Dobbs like attributes. Most likely of the QBs to win a game that may otherwise be unwinnable. Biggest issue was turnovers and decision-making, but if he can get that under control, he may be the best QB on the roster.

Shrout. Arguably the highest upside for a pro-style passer. May have one of the strongest arms in college football. Still struggles with decision-making, but if Shrout improves his accuracy and limits his mistakes, he may also be the best QB on the roster.

Bailey. Blue-chip Freshman QB who put up very impressive numbers against good competition. Don't know how he'll adjust to the college game, but similar QBs out of Georgia have all fared very well (e.g. Fromm, Lawrence). Probably our most highly touted QB recruit since Peyton Manning.

Hill. Probably the least likely to win the job, but he does have a lot of experience as a starting QB. Biggest issue was accuracy and turnovers. Better scrambler than JG. I think he might've gotten a shot this year had he been eligible, but will be tougher for him to get playing time next year.

I still think JG wins the job, but we've seen over the past 2 years that he struggles with consistency. If Bailey comes in and looks as good as some think, he may take over. Also if Maurer comes back and cleans up his mistakes, he may take over. Then again, maybe things finally click for JG next year and we get more games like the SC, Miss State, and Mizzou games this year from him.
This is the best take I've seen yet. Nice post, very well stated.
 
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I have watched Bailey play in the GHSA playoffs. He's legit. I think he competes for the starting job no later than his sophomore year. That being said, I also think the staff would prefer to bring him along slowly, and rely on the current QB's in-house in 2020. We'll have to wait and see if there are any transfers / early departures, but if there are none then UT Football has a good problem at QB entering 2020 spring practice. You figure it's Guarantano/Maurer for the #1 spot, and Shrout / Hill for #3. HB can grow up at his own pace, which would be the preferred path.

Let's hope we keep 'em all, and keep 'em all healthy, and enter the 2020 season with a well-stocked pantry at the QB spot.

Go Vols.
We'll see who's been working out hard and studying film in the off season next this spring. TBH, I know it probably has to happen, but I hate to lose either BM or JTS. I think their ceiling is just higher with the right coaching.
 
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Wont redshirt? It's hard for me to believe that he would unseat JG preseason and if JG doesn't regress again, at all. Then you have Hill who has experience and Maurer who has enough experience and shown flashes. Is HB supposed to be that awesome right out of the gate?
Wouldn't it make sense for CJP to plan to redshirt him if he's behind JG but equal to the others and next year he only has Maurer to worry about? Maurer could transfer anyway.
Just want yalls thoughts who think HB will be at least the #2 guy. (And I'll understand if this gets moved to the similar QB thread going on)
Good thread!
 
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Wont redshirt? It's hard for me to believe that he would unseat JG preseason and if JG doesn't regress again, at all. Then you have Hill who has experience and Maurer who has enough experience and shown flashes. Is HB supposed to be that awesome right out of the gate?
Wouldn't it make sense for CJP to plan to redshirt him if he's behind JG but equal to the others and next year he only has Maurer to worry about? Maurer could transfer anyway.
Just want yalls thoughts who think HB will be at least the #2 guy. (And I'll understand if this gets moved to the similar QB thread going on)

Good points. But I don't get the sense that Jeremy Pruitt recruits any player with a plan to redshirt him before he even steps on campus.
 
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