Our QB room will be the best in the SEC

Don’t be an idiot and avoid my point. If they had NO OFFERS as of 2018 that MUST mean that Maurer made his TEAM better and HIS play provided them the opportunity to go to college! He had one game totaling over 700 yards of accounted for offense. He had another where 4..... yes FOUR receivers had over 100 yds receiving and nearly did it twice. And that was against FLORIDA talent.

Last I checked qbs don’t play defense. If he lead the states #1 scoring offense but his defense allowed 45 points a game ave how can your point of not winning be valid?
Because other SEC level QBs actually won more than they lost in high school. That's generally how it works, regardless of what their defense looked like. The game you brag so much about, how many interceptions, fumbles and pic sixes did he have? And I guess you don't want to admit he was throwing to college talent in 18.
 
I hate how some fans genuinely expect Bailey to get here and dominate the SEC the day he steps on campus and when he doesn't' they'll be chanting "what's wrong with him? He needs to transfer...hes a bust."

He can still be a great QB, be a future 1st round pick, lead our program back on top, and not be ready year one. Heck, even year two...Trevor Lawrence, Tua, and Fromm's successes with their programs have jaded our thinking into expecting his career here will be the same as those others.....

Get the kid on campus. Coach him up and get him better. Teach him how to lead a team. Let him carve his own path.
I don't expect him to come in and dominate the SEC, I am expecting him to be the best QB on our roster the next several years.
 
I think Shrout is gone after the bowl and maybe BM
I think Shrout is out. BM on the other hand might stick around becuase he got next. Idk where Hill fits in unless he can play Wr. Bailey will be a backup next year barring injury and we all know JG is one bad play away from the pine. I expect JG and BM to both play next year. Its really a 2 horse race and the most consistent guy will start.
 
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Because other SEC level QBs actually won more than they lost in high school. That's generally how it works, regardless of what their defense looked like. The game you brag so much about, how many interceptions, fumbles and pic sixes did he have? And I guess you don't want to admit he was throwing to college talent in 18.
The 700 yd game started with a pick 6 against him which was his only pick. It ended with 6 scores (3 rushing, 3 passing) in his favor. Most games he threw at least one. As to be expected when your team throws the ball 45 times a game and leans on only him. If you understood football the way you think you do you’d understand that opposing defenses knew they only had to stop him to win. The fact that FLORIDA talent/coaches still couldn’t stop him speaks volumes when he averaged 4 tds a game regardless.
 
Because other SEC level QBs actually won more than they lost in high school. That's generally how it works, regardless of what their defense looked like. The game you brag so much about, how many interceptions, fumbles and pic sixes did he have? And I guess you don't want to admit he was throwing to college talent in 18.
And by that logic you’re saying if LSU or Bamas defense gave up an average of 45 points a game Joe Burrow and Tua suck. How stupid does it sound listening to yourself?
 
This may be considered homerism, but I’ll take what’s in Gainesville over that group

Florida is in great shape at QB with Trask, Emory Jones, and one of the most exciting prospects at QB in a long time in Anthony Richardson coming in as a true Freshman. He’s basically a bigger version of Emory.

There isn’t a better QB room in the country.
 
And by that logic you’re saying if LSU or Bamas defense gave up an average of 45 points a game Joe Burrow and Tua suck. How stupid does it sound listening to yourself?
I'd much rather hear about how you know other programs are interested in Tn players, that may actually be the stupidest thing you've done lately as it was a clear confession of a major rules violation by you! Nothing like being in the middle of it all I guess. He'll be happy to know you spilled the beans on that one!!
 
I'd much rather hear about how you know other programs are interested in Tn players, that may actually be the stupidest thing you've done lately as it was a clear confession of a major rules violation by you! Nothing like being in the middle of it all I guess. He'll be happy to know you spilled the beans on that one!!
He has no idea who I talk to or who talks to me or what about. And there’s no rule violation of any sort. Can we admit we’d be interested in Justin Fields if he came available? Trevor Lawrence? Simply put he loves UT and that’s all that matters. All I’m telling you is don’t underestimate him as you’ve done so frequently.
 
I'd much rather hear about how you know other programs are interested in Tn players, that may actually be the stupidest thing you've done lately as it was a clear confession of a major rules violation by you! Nothing like being in the middle of it all I guess. He'll be happy to know you spilled the beans on that one!!
And btw..... I’d do my best to change that subject too if I were you. Nothing better than seeing you backpedal.
 
He has no idea who I talk to or who talks to me or what about. And there’s no rule violation of any sort. Can we admit we’d be interested in Justin Fields if he came available? Trevor Lawrence? Simply put he loves UT and that’s all that matters. All I’m telling you is don’t underestimate him as you’ve done so frequently.
You are so full of it, as his handler, you know damn well what violates a rule, or you really don't have a clue. A university can't speak to ANYONE about wanting another player from another school until said player has been granted a release. It's that way at EVERY level for EVERY sport and it's a rule ALL coaches are very aware of. Either you were lying about having that information or you are dealing with coaches knowingly breaking the rules. My guess is you made it up.
And yes we can admit we are interested once they've been granted their release.
 
Thoughts on this IG post? Seems a little odd.
 

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You are so full of it, as his handler, you know damn well what violates a rule, or you really don't have a clue. A university can't speak to ANYONE about wanting another player from another school until said player has been granted a release. It's that way at EVERY level for EVERY sport and it's a rule ALL coaches are very aware of. Either you were lying about having that information or you are dealing with coaches knowingly breaking the rules. My guess is you made it up.
And yes we can admit we are interested once they've been granted their release.
Assume away as you’ve always done.
 
What games did JG lose for Tn the last 3 seasons because of his bad play? What games the last 3 years would we have won with better QB play? Bottom line is that our record would not be much different the last 3 years with Fromm, Trask or Tua playing QB for the Vols. I also think we'd likely have a worse record the last 3 seasons with any of the QBs from SC, Texas A&M, Auburn, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Miss St and Arkansas.
Wow. I have seen some dishonest, disingenuous posts on this and other forums, but this one surpasses them all. This is bottomlessly dumb and just plain dishonest. JG single-handedly lost us multiple games just this year, and the good games he had don't change that. He appears to be a great kid; but he's wildly inconsistent as a quarterback and has majorly held this team back, and I personally do not want to see another year of him under center.
 
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I get that as a HB fan you hope him to be... I just question how or why we should expect it. Especially next year?
I'm not a fan of HB any more so than BM or JG, more a fan of the entire team really. I like to think I know how recruiting works and I've evaluated athletes before and enjoy talking about it. I'm a JG fan only because these neverJG guys continue to crap on the kid, I decided to take up for him on here just to rile the ridiculous neverJG crowd up.

Bailey is a blue chip recruit at the most important position on the field. We've had lots of blue chip recruits, some recently named Smith, Morris, Wright and Henry T but not many at QB. We should all be jumping up and down celebrating the fact that we are getting a kid ranked in the top 35 of all kids in the country at the most critical position in all of sports. Instead we are arguing over a project QB who was not even a top 35 player in his own state.
 
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I do. Only 3 guys in Ga high school history have done what he's done. Their names are Deshaun Watson, Trevor Lawrence and Jake Fromm and HB did it in the toughest district in the South and arguably the country. I know that we've had some highly rated guys we've recruited in the past, all great players, but the buzz about HB in coaching and recruiting circles is off the charts on this kid. He may be a huge flop, they certainly happen, but as of right now he simply doesn't have a negative that anybody is out there reporting. Casey and Bray were certainly high profile guys, HB is every bit the recruit they were, I personally think a bit more desirable.
This is just dumb. I just looked it up: Peyton was the #2 quarterback in the country and the #11 recruit overall; the latter number comes from an article I read that cited Blue Chip Illustrated, but both that article and Bleacherreport listed him as the #2 quarterback, behind only Josh Booty who went to LSU.

Bailey is ranked #8 among quarterbacks by 247, and the #130 player overall.

You do realize that math in the real world does not include #130 being higher than #11, or #8 being higher than #2?
 
Fr Harrison Bailey, our highest acclaimed QB recruit since Peyton,

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Hate to bust your bubble on Bailey, but he is not the most highly acclaimed QB recruit since Payton. Some on this board are that high on him, but I would contend that all of the other QB's below were more highly acclaimed. I would also add Tee Martin to that list, although I couldn't find his rating, he was highly acclaimed coming out of HS. BTW, I would take Dobbs over any on the list below.

QB ratings (247):
Harrison Bailey .9377
Jarrett Guarantano .9628
Jonathan Crompton .9785
Tyler Bray .9520
Casey Clausen .9896
 
Florida is in great shape at QB with Trask, Emory Jones, and one of the most exciting prospects at QB in a long time in Anthony Richardson coming in as a true Freshman. He’s basically a bigger version of Emory.

There isn’t a better QB room in the country.

I get what you're saying, but the Gators in here are sounding kinda like annoying passive-aggressive uga fans. Don't do that. The Gators in here (yourself included) are largely good folks. Don't be uga-esque.
 
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I never said OVER Manning, I said since Manning. You added the over.
"Probably ever" implies that Bailey is a better recruit than Manning was - there is no other way to read it. You didn't say, "ever with the exception of Manning," you said, "probably ever."
 
Wow. I have seen some dishonest, disingenuous posts on this and other forums, but this one surpasses them all. This is bottomlessly dumb and just plain dishonest. JG single-handedly lost us multiple games just this year, and the good games he had don't change that. He appears to be a great kid; but he's wildly inconsistent as a quarterback and has majorly held this team back, and I personally do not want to see another year of him under center.
Name them and the exact plays that cost us the games. Please include the score at the time JG cost us the game. I've never blamed a single player for losses, only loser fans do that. Who lost the game for Alabama Saturday? Was it the kicker? I just feel it's way more complex than just one player. Did QB play effect the results, absolutely, in both the wins and losses. Saying we'd have won games had Maurer played is a big huge IF and no way to predict as I don't think he exited a game this year with a lead did he?
 
Hate to bust your bubble on Bailey, but he is not the most highly acclaimed QB recruit since Payton. Some on this board are that high on him, but I would contend that all of the other QB's below were more highly acclaimed. I would also add Tee Martin to that list, although I couldn't find his rating, he was highly acclaimed coming out of HS. BTW, I would take Dobbs over any on the list below.

QB ratings (247):
Harrison Bailey .9377
Jarrett Guarantano .9628
Jonathan Crompton .9785
Tyler Bray .9520
Casey Clausen .9896
Damn @PulaskiVolFan ! Keep talking! Its like the more you talk the more credibility you lose. Keep it up and you’ll disappear! Fingers crossed 🤞
 
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"Probably ever" implies that Bailey is a better recruit than Manning was - there is no other way to read it. You didn't say, "ever with the exception of Manning," you said, "probably ever."
It was a slip, but since you want to discuss, they didn't have star rankings back then and some recruiting services didn't even think Peyton was the best QB in his own state.
 
Name them and the exact plays that cost us the games. Please include the score at the time JG cost us the game. I've never blamed a single player for losses, only loser fans do that. Who lost the game for Alabama Saturday? Was it the kicker? I just feel it's way more complex than just one player. Did QB play effect the results, absolutely, in both the wins and losses. Saying we'd have won games had Maurer played is a big huge IF and no way to predict as I don't think he exited a game this year with a lead did he?
This makes every bit as much sense as offering to drive someone to an important meeting, driving the whole way at a speed of ten miles an hour, and then saying you didn't make your passenger late because the car was moving the whole time.

It really takes someone wholly devoted to mistruth and distortion to claim JG didn't cost us games this year. Even JG apologists from a year ago were jumping off the bandwagon one by one and posting on here how they had finally seen the light and understood that he just couldn't make the right decisions, go through progressions, etc. Has he since had good games? He has - and he had multiple good games last year before stinking it up in several this year, most recently the last one we played.

I suppose you think 6 of 17 for 120 yards, a 35% completion percentage, with one TD and one INT is a good stat line for a redshirt junior playing Vandy with three soon-to-be-drafted wideouts at his disposal?
 
It was a slip, but since you want to discuss, they didn't have star rankings back then and some recruiting services didn't even think Peyton was the best QB in his own state.
This has every bit as much credibility as saying that some people believe the world is flat.
 
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