If I'm Shrout and Maurer I transfer

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RockyTop140 said:
The only thing that I don’t get is JG will make boneheaded decisions like that constantly, yet they leave him in. But when a freshman who’s expected to make mistakes messes up once, he gets yanked. It should be other way around. The experienced junior should know better
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Your take is idiotic my friend. They leave JG in when he makes a mistake cause he’s earned that effing right to stay in via blood, sweat equity, and preparation, 4 years of it I might add: a freshman an who makes consistent boneheaded mistakes is not gonna get the benefit of the doubt over a 4th year junior with Multiple SEc wins under his belt.
 
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cgrish said:
It appears that some on here can't recognize qb talent when they see it. If maurer had started this year he would be as good as LSU qb next year. Those who can't see qb talent only look at stats not counting the score. With maurer opposing teams would not stack the Los the way they do with jg and we would have a triple threat, qb run, rb run, and pass downfield.
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Is this real life?
 
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cgrish said:
It appears that some on here can't recognize qb talent when they see it. If maurer had started this year he would be as good as LSU qb next year. Those who can't see qb talent only look at stats not counting the score. With maurer opposing teams would not stack the Los the way they do with jg and we would have a triple threat, qb run, rb run, and pass downfield.
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Don’t feed the troll everyone.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
I want the best Qb in spring and fall practices to be the guy. We will see if JG continues to play and practice well.
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Agree. But I'm hopeful that this recent breakthrough is permanent for him. He's playing with confidence... or should I say moxie. He's been more decisive with his reads and throws in the past couple of weeks than he ever has.

Again I don't know if it was incidental or planned but the management of JG by Pruitt/Chaney worked very well. The guy had brain lock. Couldn't read D's. Hesitated on decisions. Missed open receivers down field. Gave up on plays too soon. He was a wreck. They took the starting job away from him then worked him back in as a reliever. They built his confidence back while he didn't have the pressure of trying to hold on to the job.

I never doubted his physical ability. I did not believe he could overcome the issues in his head without a completely fresh start somewhere else. He deserves massive credit for sticking it out. The coaches deserve massive credit for how they handled him... and the other guys.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Shrout is here for the education and experience. I could see him transferring once he gets his degree but not before. He's very similar situation to the Trask kid at Florida I feel, plus, women are 37-0, undefeated for all time!
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I won't be disappointed. I like him too.

Trask is interesting. Mullen has been so dead set on Franks that the better QB was on the bench. To me Franks is similar to JG except he hasn't had a breakthrough. He's probably a stud in practice. He had all the physical talent you could ever want.... but it just doesn't click for him. I do not think they're where they are without Trask taking over.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Look at BMs arms in that picture. There is not one defined muscle on his whole upper half save for a small bicep, certainly no tricep or forearm muscles.
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You cannot tell that by looking at a picture. You just can't. And yeah.... I know 6'4" kids built like BM that I know for a fact weigh 200+ lbs.

I don't think his frame is too small for the position but his CURRENT size, muscle tone, thickness and strength was too small for him to be very productive this year.
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And you have no reason at all to say that. It hasn't been his physical ability other than the head/neck injury that has held him back. He's a high risk player who has to be tempered. He was in fact productive but made mistakes.

Other than a convenient subjective opinion and some unexplained bias against the kid... you have no proof that he's too small, frail, thin, or weak to play. Lots of guys have played at his build.... including JG.

You are subtle but the fact that you don't like Maurer as a player or perhaps as a person is pretty easy to detect. You've drawn a conclusion and are grasping for a justification.

I think Pruitt should have had him RS this year as I believe a year of watching, learning and growing, both mentally and physically without any pressure to produce would have been good for him and would have allowed for him to compete, with a clean slate, for the starting QB position next year. Maurer has now played and has a resume for everyone to see and that resume has hurt him more than its helped and his body strength is certainly part of that resume.
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Again... a product of your bias. You could really just use short hand and say you don't like him.

The concern I would have as a HC if Maurer wanted to transfer into my program is whether he's prone to concussions. That's all.... but pretty big. Concussions have nothing to do with whether he has big biceps or not. A fairly large part of it comes down to innate physical characteristics.

The only "strength" that would be a question is arm strength... and he's shown plenty of that. He's the fastest of the three. He's shown he can throw the ball on time and into small windows.

Considering his play as a freshman in the situations he was thrown into... he would be a VERY attractive transfer prospect if concussions aren't an issue.
 
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sjt18 said:
I won't be disappointed. I like him too.

Trask is interesting. Mullen has been so dead set on Franks that the better QB was on the bench. To me Franks is similar to JG except he hasn't had a breakthrough. He's probably a stud in practice. He had all the physical talent you could ever want.... but it just doesn't click for him. I do not think they're where they are without Trask taking over.
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They would be in the same spot. Frank's numbers this year were better than Trask is putting up. 76% passing on 9.8 ypa and a 176+ rating before hurt. Beating Trask in every category. The coaches usually know who to play.
 
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k-town_king said:
They would be in the same spot. Frank's numbers this year were better than Trask is putting up. 76% passing on 9.8 ypa and a 176+ rating before hurt. Beating Trask in every category. The coaches usually know who to play.
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Except when they benched JG of course... then according to you they had no idea what they were doing... or when the previous staff started Dormady who had beaten JG out... Like with pretty much everything else... you filter facts through your predetermined conclusions.

Once again you parse stats in a way that make them LIES. Franks' numbers were badly skewed by a 25 for 27 performance against FCS UT-Martin.
 
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gemlek said:
JG to transfer portal please; seemingly a good kid but limits this team. Watch the Mizzou film......almost every throw was late or behind the receiver. Same for the past 2+ season. He has hit his ceiling.
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Yeah. 415 passing yards against one of the to pass defenses in the country.
 
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cgrish said:
Cause it appears he is not going to be given a chance to play here.
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I’m going to have to throw the BS flag on this one. He got opportunities this year as a true freshman to play. He will get a shot and will win the job or lose it on his own accord. To say he won’t play if he proves to be the best QB to give us a chance to win is ludicrous.

He has a real shot next year and definitely the year after to be QB1. He didn’t win the time this year, but he did get a valid shot. Just CJP proved he was right (this year) that JG ga e us the best chance to win.

CJP is going to play the QB that gives us the best chance to win.
 
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cgrish said:
Cause it appears he is not going to be given a chance to play here.
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Depends ultimately on what's important to him. He could go to a mid-major or FCS school and start next year if released. He could possibly go to a lower tier P-5 school like Arizona or Kansas and start early for a team unlikely to compete for a championship.

A move anywhere other than FCS would likely cost him his RS.

His other option is to stay at UT where he will be coached by Chaney, Martin, and Weinke... about the best he could hope for. He can still take his RS and have 3 years to start or can transfer after graduating.

His decision and that of Shrout will likely come down to how they feel about their relationship with the coaches, what the coaches tell them their prospects at UT are, and how they feel they fit in the locker room with their teammates. MOST of what will determine the decisions of any of them is way beyond our ability to know. You would have to be a close personal friend or mentor. Anyone that close... won't likely betray the kid.
 
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krbster said:
IMHO, MAURER is the only upper division SEC quarterback on this roster...Hats off to JG- wghat a turnaround - but, if you had a draft of SEC And by SEC coaches, MAURER would go earlier than JG...MAURER has very live arm, great quick release and
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JG has ALWAYS had the physical ability to be a very good SEC QB. His issues were always between his ears. If he's resolved that then he UT has a very good QB who can lead the team to wins next fall.

I love Maurer's potential. But lots of guys with potential don't become good SEC QB's.
 
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willinhf said:
Yeah. 415 passing yards against one of the top pass defenses in the country.
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Those numbers are a bit skewed because of their weak schedule. Against P5 opponents they are relatively mediocre in pass defense.

WVU: 141
USCe: 255
Ole' Miss: 236
Vandy: 165
Kentucky: 63
Georgia: 173
Florida: 330
Tennessee: 415

That being said, 415 yards off passing is phenomenal regardless of their defensive ranking.
 
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TrueVolsGBOInsider said:
Your take is idiotic my friend. They leave JG in when he makes a mistake cause he’s earned that effing right to stay in via blood, sweat equity, and preparation, 4 years of it I might add: a freshman an who makes consistent boneheaded mistakes is not gonna get the benefit of the doubt over a 4th year junior with Multiple SEc wins under his belt.
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I know you remember watching Guarantano play earlier this season. He looked bad. Plain and simple. Dumb decisions, bad throws, etc. I am more than happy he’s figured it out these past few games, and I hope he comes back and starts next year. But at the beginning of the season, the freshman at QB were moving the ball better when given the opportunity. Was not an idiotic take at all.
 
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sjt18 said:
Depends ultimately on what's important to him. He could go to a mid-major or FCS school and start next year if released. He could possibly go to a lower tier P-5 school like Arizona or Kansas and start early for a team unlikely to compete for a championship.

A move anywhere other than FCS would likely cost him his RS.

His other option is to stay at UT where he will be coached by Chaney, Martin, and Weinke... about the best he could hope for. He can still take his RS and have 3 years to start or can transfer after graduating.

His decision and that of Shrout will likely come down to how they feel about their relationship with the coaches, what the coaches tell them their prospects at UT are, and how they feel they fit in the locker room with their teammates. MOST of what will determine the decisions of any of them is way beyond our ability to know. You would have to be a close personal friend or mentor. Anyone that close... won't likely betray the kid.
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He has the redshirt to use. Whether it’s spent here or somewhere new, it won’t affect his remaining ELIGIBILITY. He’s a confident young man, so unless he’s reading tea leaves that point otherwise he most likely sticks at least another season.
 
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