The Impeachment Thread

It is really fascinating to me that the leftists cannot tell you why they want Trump gone other than saying he is a liar, unpresidential and other adjectives that I won't repeat here. They REFUSE to acknowledge that in many of those cases he is NO DIFFERENT than any other president, and they REFUSE to acknowledge all the good things that are happening in the economy and unemployment... in world events... things like that. It is like a mass delusion among the leftists. Are they really still butthurt over their girl's loss? I don't stay this upset about losing to Vanderbilt in football, and that has far more personal meaning than who's in the WH...

Yep. Right about that. And the Vandy thing too.

What goads their love handles is that Trump is bucking the PC environment and calling BS on the Wussified States of America. He doesn't play in the sand box. I don't expect a superiorly perfect human being in the White House. I would appreciate if he toned some things down. But to call a POS a POS is FOS. And to think that disqualifies an individual that is working to do good things outside that sand box is ridiculous. There were POS' in the WH far worse than Trump many moons before any of the current Admins way back before Nixon. Way, way back.
 
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That's because you were presumptuous and, once again, wrong.

I see you are just as stubborn the red hatters here.

Russia hacked the DNC. There is no forensic proof otherwise. The download speeds mentioned were demonstrably possible in 2016.

This is not presumption. This is fact.

I can get 2 Gigabit downloads at my place of work now, but as I said in my initial post we throttle users at 250mbps or 100mbps and have for a while.

The conversion on 250mbps is 31.25 MBps, way above the line of what Orange's "forensic expert" said was impossible.

I can also get Gig speed at home for 80$ a month. That is far faster that the downloads quoted in the article, or 125MBps. Has there been some new infrastructure put in since 2016 that the GRU didn't have then? No.

The Russians, once inside the DNC server would have had no trouble pulling down files at the speeds this supposed expert believed to be impossible.

Keep in mind. That was only one of a number of logical and factual errors being pushed here.
 
“Forensicators first decisive findings, made public in the paper dated July 9, concerned the volume of the supposedly hacked material and what is called the transfer rate—the time a remote hack would require. The metadata established several facts in this regard with granular precision: On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second.
These statistics are matters of record and essential to disproving the hack theory. No Internet service provider, such as a hacker would have had to use in mid-2016, was capable of downloading data at this speed. Compounding this contradiction, Guccifer claimed to have run his hack from Romania, which, for numerous reasons technically called delivery overheads, would slow down the speed of a hack even further from maximum achievable speeds.”

Time stamps in the metadata indicate the download occurred somewhere on the East Coast of the United States—not Russia, Romania, or anywhere else outside the EDT zone.


In December 2016, VIPS released a memorandum criticizing allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections as "evidence-free". The memorandum asserted that the 2016 Democratic National Committee email leak was the result of an internal leak and not a Russian hack.[10]
On July 24, 2017, VIPS released another memorandum which also argued that the DNC was not hacked, this time based on a forensic analysis conducted by the anonymous entity "Forensicator" with whom they communicated via retired IBM employee Skip Folden. This analysis was based on DNC files released by Guccifer 2.0.[11] According to Patrick Lawrence's article in The Nation, the memorandum argued that the metadata in these files were altered to add Russian fingerprints, and that file transfer rate proved they were transferred locally.[12] Brian Feldman, writing in the New York Magazine, criticized the report for relying on "the 'metadata' of 'locked files' that only [Forensicator] had access to" pointing out that these phrases were meaningless. Feldman described the claims in Patrick Lawrence's article as "too incoherent to even debunk" and criticized its use of "techno-gibberish".[13]
According to John Hultquist of FireEye: "The author of the report didn't consider a number of scenarios and breezed right past others. It completely ignores all the evidence that contradicts its claims." Rich Barger, director of security research at Splunk, pointed out that the VIPS theory "assumes that the hacker downloaded the files to a computer and then leaked it from that computer" but overlooks the likelihood that the files were copied several times before they were leaked, potentially creating new metadata each time. Barger's comments were echoed by other cyber-security experts.[14] The Guardian Project founder Nathaniel Freitas independently reviewed Lawrence's article on behalf of The Nation, concluding that while "the work of the Forensicator is detailed and accurate," it did not prove the conclusions VIPS and Lawrence derived from it. Freitas stated that the high throughput suggested by the relevant metadata could have been achieved by a hacker under several different scenarios, including through the use of a remote access trojan, and that the leak hypothesis also requires "the target server ... to be physically on site in the building": "If the files were stored remotely 'in the cloud,' then the same criticism of 'it is not possible to get those speeds' would come into play." In sum: "At this point, given the limited available data, certainty about only a very small number of things can be achieved."[

Why the latest theory about the DNC not being hacked is probably wrong

Forensicator stories at Techdirt.
 
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Maybe one. I never use the stuff.
I've lived a life exposing myself to every germ. Never sick, never go to the doctor.

Were you spot on as usual?

Nope. Much to your amusement, I will have to eat that one.

I'm with you on it though. Don't touch it. Pretty resilient system.
 
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@Orange_Crush youre right and I’m about to go to airplane mode.

The lanes he’s referencing which provide sustained high transfer rates with minimized latency are not basic access and require premium and even dedicated hardware. Yeah that’s exactly what an anonymous hacker is gonna use 😂
The reason that screenshot was a big deal is because Google was showing possibilities in broadband technologies at the time as opposed to realities.

@DinkinFlicka is posting a lot of wisdom here. There are actually better ways to try to debunk this than the way Rifle is going about it.
 


Judge: Donald Trump is not a King.

Dershowitz: Of course not. He's far more powerful.

Knew we'd get here at some point, but not this soon. Second term is going to be something. I look forward to breaking rocks alongside some of you at the re-education camps.
 
You think too much of yourself. I'm 54. July 21st meant nothing to me on July 22nd. I was just poking. And if I was wrong about something, I wouldn't remember it.
I'm 59 and I hope your memory isn't as bad a mine.
The July 21st prediction was always pretty much just a joke on my end.
 
I love how the Republicans/ Conservatives/ Trump supporters in this forum throw in tweets from the Republican nut jobs Sara A. Carter, Paul Sperry, Terrence K. Williams, Dan Bongino and Charlie Kirk as if what they are saying is based on proven facts and reality. It's not. The Republican Party has become the party of extremism. It is now the party of social media propagandists, conspiracy theorists and disinformation campaigns.
Speaking of conspiracy theories, disinformation, and extremism, did you see the hearings the last couple weeks that ended with no direct proof of any crimes committed by Trump? Good times.
 
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