The Impeachment Thread

[BowlBrother85]

No he didn’t.

Gordon Sondland said he presumed there was a quid pro quo.

It was a figment of his imagination.

That is ridiculous. He explained that he understood what his directives and he was in a position to know.

 

[BigOrangeD]

GOP's new star says Dem impeachment push 'crumbling,' here’s why

 

[BigOrangeD]

Public opinion shifts further from favoring impeachment amid public hearings

 

[BigOrangeD]

Rudy Giuliani Bombshell: U.S. Diplomats Were Doing the Bidding of George Soros in Ukraine

 

[BigOrangeD]

• Liberal Democrat Constitutional Scholar Alan Dershowitz: It’s the Democrats Abusing Power: ‘Congress is Not Above the Law — They Can’t Make it up as They go Along’

 

[hog88]

Theater that will get Trump impeached.

Doubt it

 

[NorthDallas40]

They probably do have it recorded. The law isn’t much of a deterrent for them.

Not what I said. I absolutely believe all the alphabet agencies do it. Are they willing to acknowledge it over this? No F-ing way.

 

[VolnJC]

It's not politics as usual. That was sort of the point. No better example of people willingly watching the bar lowered.

Then why did opposition to impeachment rise the longer the hearings lasted? The Dems lost on this and there will be ads targeting the 25 reps in areas where Trump one showing the 6 times there were impeachment votes vs zero ones for USMCA trade deal
Poll finds sharp swing in opposition to impeachment among independents

 

[Purple Tiger]

Doubt it

Check back with me in a few weeks, theater patron.

 

[AirVol]

Schitt’s FACT witnesses, “I believe” or “I feel”. No facts.

 

[hog88]

Not what I said. I absolutely believe all the alphabet agencies do it. Are they willing to acknowledge it over this? No F-ing way.

Yeah, they’ll never acknowledge it. If there was a “bombshell” gotcha in that call they would leak it to another countries intelligence service so they could leak it.

 

[hog88]

Check back with me in a few weeks, theater patron.

As long as the sun shines and creek don’t rise I’ll be here waiting.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Yeah, they’ll never acknowledge it. If there was a “bombshell” gotcha in that call they would leak it to another countries intelligence service so they could leak it.

Valid point

 

[BigOrangeD]

Impeachment Evidence Not Even Close to Bribery, Heritage Legal Expert Says

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

You should care more about how someone gets to be millionaires AFTER they go into politics. And a tax return doesn't tell you shiite about how someone earned their net worth. Are you really this naive? People like Pelosi/Shumer have far more leverage over people than Trump did as a private citizen.

Before and after. If someone was being supported by the drug cartels, you're ok with that? We know the POS in there now is s grifter. Grifters gonna grift....

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Impeachment Evidence Not Even Close to Bribery, Heritage Legal Expert Says

Heritage foundation....got it.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Then why did opposition to impeachment rise the longer the hearings lasted? The Dems lost on this and there will be ads targeting the 25 reps in areas where Trump one showing the 6 times there were impeachment votes vs zero ones for USMCA trade deal
Poll finds sharp swing in opposition to impeachment among independents

So, polls are now legit, huh? No more... but 2016?!?!?!?

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

I love how the media keeps spinning that he was asking for dirt in his rival opponents.

Let’s say he did ask for dirt on the Biden with the Ukraine job. He did ask to actually investigate it.

That’s Biden’s son, who isn’t running, that would be getting investigated.

Not Biden the VP.

Just another way the media has gaslighted everyone.

Two points that you're leaving out, he held up the military aid contingent on them investigating Biden, and why ask a foreign country that's "corrupt" to investigate a private citizen? It appears that you're doing the gaslighting.

 

[luthervol]

Then why did opposition to impeachment rise the longer the hearings lasted? The Dems lost on this and there will be ads targeting the 25 reps in areas where Trump one showing the 6 times there were impeachment votes vs zero ones for USMCA trade deal
Poll finds sharp swing in opposition to impeachment among independents

No idea. Maybe the polls will shift again.
The truth is obvious. Trump tried to bribe Ukraine by withholding aid in order to get them to publicly state they were investigating Burisma for the sole purpose of helping his 2020 campaign.
Beyond that, people can decide for themselves.

 

[luthervol]

Is there really any dispute over what was said in that call?

So you agree he's guilty?

 

[GAVol]

So you agree he's guilty?

Of straight up bribery... I don't think so. Of playing the game... Probably. Of something impeachable... No.

When they pivoted from the foreign aid argument to claiming that not taking a meeting was bribery, it became ludicrous.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

The point is, is Hunter Biden the first time in history Republicans have gotten after someone because he made too much money?

You think that is the reason?

 

[luthervol]

Of straight up bribery... I don't think so. Of playing the game... Probably. Of something impeachable... No.

When they pivoted from the foreign aid argument to claiming that not taking a meeting was bribery, it became ludicrous.

You seem intelligent enough to know what he did and was attempting to do. If you're good with it, so be it. I'll leave it that.

 

[BowlBrother85]

You think that is the reason?

Very few Republicans in Congress openly objected to Ivanka Trump's trademark deals in China or with Donald Trump's decision to hold the G7 Summit in Doral (since reversed). So, yes... there is a very clear double standard on who can profit from the office.

 

[volinsd]

I think there is one thing everyone can agree on. No matter your stance on Trump, after the past 5 days of testimony, your opinion of him now is lower than before.

I disagree.
My opinion isn't lower.