The Impeachment Thread

[volfanjustin]

If you truly are non partisan than you know these Polls are bogus and worthless.

You know damn well she is partisan, she tries to play the huff/pj card. That won't fly

 

[RockyTop85]

This is all OT, but the government doesn't have values.

At this (big picture) level, the definition of liberal/conservative centers on the viewed relationship between the individual and the government. Not the specific things the government is doing.

I agree with these things as stated. I don’t see them as incompatible with what I’ve said, but am curious if you do.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Didn't withhold anything
No investigation was started into the Biden crime family
No bribery, or as you all called it 2 weeks ago, no quid pro quo.

But he did withhold the aid. Trump was interested in the announcement of an investigation into the Bidens, in order to damage an opponent.

 

[NorthDallas40]

The Dems were all about moral relativism before Trump got elected.

Now pro-Trump republicans are too.

And your defense of your argument thus far when your basic assertion has been attacked and your timeline of this assertion has been attacked, even from people whom share your overall butthurt level over Trump, has been “well just because YOU guys (and girl...) disagree and don’t see it my way doesn’t mean I’m wrong”

Very compelling argument... counselor.

 

[volfanjustin]

But he did withhold the aid. Trump was interested in the announcement if an investigation into the Bidens, in order to damage an opponent.

No he didn't.
Did they get the aid?
Was there an investigation started into the Biden crime family?

Oh and by the way the aid was more than your boy barry gave them

 

[BowlBrother85]

No he didn't.
Did they get the aid?
Was there an investigation started into the Biden crime family?

Oh and by the way the aid was more than your boy barry gave them

Yes, he did withhold the aid!

 

[VolnJC]

He bribed the Ukraine.

Except whoops
U.S. Confirms Delivery Of Javelin Antitank Missiles To Ukraine

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

But he did withhold the aid. Trump was interested in the announcement of an investigation into the Bidens, in order to damage an opponent.

lol

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Yes, he did withhold the aid!

And what aid is that?

 

[C-south]

He bribed the Ukraine.

But aid was withheld from other countries too. Are there no corrupt dims with corrupt offspring working for corrupt businesses in those countries?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Except whoops
U.S. Confirms Delivery Of Javelin Antitank Missiles To Ukraine

Except that $340 million in aid was withheld.

 

[VolnJC]

Except that $340 million in aid was withheld.

Nope they got it in September....without having to do anything

 

[BowlBrother85]

But aid was withheld from other countries too. Are there no corrupt dims with corrupt offspring working for corrupt businesses in those countries?

Were those countries allied countries at war, and was their military aid also authorized by Congress? That is some weak deflection. This was bribery.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Nope they got it in September....without having to do anything

OMG... a whole.. three months? After a new guy was sworn into what has been an extremely corrupt country? How dare Mr Trump do such a thing. We should have put that money in a 737 and delivered it that night.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Nope they got it in September....without having to do anything

It was still withheld. No harm, no foul does not apply when it comes to bribery.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Were those countries allied countries at war, and was their military aid also authorized by Congress? That is some weak deflection. This was bribery.

lol

 

[C-south]

Were those countries allied countries at war, and was their military aid also authorized by Congress? That is some weak deflection. This was bribery.

Lol. What? What was the date the aid was supposed to be delivered? Also what did we get out of the bribe that nobody has proof of?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Were those countries allied countries at war, and was their military aid also authorized by Congress? That is some weak deflection. This was bribery.

So why didn’t Barry provide lethal aid instead of encouraging words of support? You’re right that is some weak ass deflection

 

[JCP201]

If you truly are non partisan than you know these Polls are bogus and worthless.

I know the polls are worthless, but Trump loves them if they help him, and I am sure it bothers him if they don't. (even though he'd never admit it)

I do not like Trump and I did vote for Obama, so I would be considered partisan here, even though I'm not thrilled with any of the Democratic candidates.

 

[BowlBrother85]

OMG... a whole.. three months? After a new guy was sworn into what has been an extremely corrupt country? How dare Mr Trump do such a thing. We should have put that money in a 737 and delivered it that night.

Trump should not have withheld it in the first place and then placed conditions on its release. He wanted a personal political favor. That is bribery.

 

[hog88]

Were those countries allied countries at war, and was their military aid also authorized by Congress? That is some weak deflection. This was bribery.

Pretty sure all aid has to be authorized by congress.

 

[37L1]

Threatening Mexico with tariffs unless they did something about the caravans, must be extortion, or is it bribery, hard to keep track these days.

Spare me all the "it's not the same thing arguments," it's a sarcastic joke.

 

[Rifleman]

But aid was withheld from other countries too. Are there no corrupt dims with corrupt offspring working for corrupt businesses in those countries?

If you remove all context you can make a lot of foolish arguments.

But at the end of the day this argument is akin to a bank robber saying, "People withdraw money from banks every day, but when I do it is a crime?"

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Trump should not have withheld it in the first place and then placed conditions on its release. He wanted a personal political favor. That is bribery.

lol. You see what you believe.

 

[C-south]

Trump should not have withheld it in the first place and then placed conditions on its release. He wanted a personal political favor. That is bribery.

Well what did he get?