The Impeachment Thread

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RockyTop85 said:
Sorry, I don’t know what that means.

The left typically look at individual behavior and say “but is it legal?” And “if not, does the law uphold our vision of equality?”

The right used to, as a whole, look at behavior and judge it by their personal valuation of right and wrong.

That’s nothing more than a description of some of the natural tension between the American right and American left.

But with Trump, his apologists have abandoned any pretense of those personal guiding principles of morality that create a valuation of “right or wrong.” We’re now to the point where they’re using sound bytes to thread the needle of some procedural technicality like “burden of proof” or just blatantly mischaracterizing the context of “high crimes and misdemeanors” to advance the notion that the conduct of this man is acceptable or unproven.

That’s not just limited to this instance of conduct. Obstruction, theft from charities, kids in cages, grabbing pussies, the response to Jamaal Kashoggi, Hong Kong... etcetera. If it’s not covered by “but Obama*” or “just like any other president” then it’s “that’s within his article II power.”

None of that is compatible with the Republican Party I supported. It doesn’t conserve anything and it puts slack in the line representing that tension I described above.

The point was not what the government should impose on people, that’s backwards, that’s what’s being capitulated to. It’s about what sense of morality the people should impose on their elected officials.
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Ok I just reject your whole premise then since you’re saying the entire right takes a morality viewpoint while the left is purely the lawful viewpoint. Which a less generalized statement was exactly what I said you did in your first question to me. I clearly said I reject the morality basis of the far right. In fact I stated for me I impose no morality view on the chief executive I just want him/her to be effective. A good chunk of us on the right do that even. And I absolutely reject your assertion that the left’s stance is the rule of law. That’s hilarious even.

Edit: oh and yeah I tried to sound like a lawyer on the religious stance thing by expanding on my first statement and didn’t do very well. Thank God I don’t sound like a lawyer
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Fiona Hill Worked with Christopher Steele, Author of Russia ‘Dossier’

Fiona Hill, the former National Security Council (NSC) official who is testifying in Thursday’s impeachment inquiry, admitted in her closed-door deposition to having worked with Russia “dossier” author Christopher Steele.

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All of these scumbags are related. I don't trust any of them. I wish President Trump could get rid of every single one of these rats
 
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Court Docs: DNA Test Confirms Hunter Biden as Father of Arkansas Baby

A DNA test has established Hunter Biden, former Vice President Joe Biden’s youngest son, as the father of a baby born out of wedlock in Arkansas, according to a motion filed in the state by the child’s mother’s legal counsel.

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Court Docs: DNA Test Confirms Hunter Biden as Father of Arkansas Baby
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Ok I just reject your whole premise then since you’re saying the entire right takes a morality viewpoint while the left is purely the lawful viewpoint. Which a less generalized statement was exactly what I said you did in your first question to me. I clearly said I reject the morality basis of the far right. And I absolutely reject your assertion that the left’s stance is the rule of law. That’s hilarious even.

Edit: oh and yeah I tried to sound like a lawyer on the religious stance thing and didn’t do very well. Thank God I don’t sound like a lawyer
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Can we just agree that, whenever you’re about to say something I said is laughable, you should stop and type “is that what you meant to say?” Instead.

The American left has, since at least the new deal and progressive movement era, attempted to use the government to shape society and societal morals into their own image.

The right has attempted to adhere to a moralistic or religious model of society.

If you want to contest this, you need to take it up with people much smarter and more informed than I am.

Those roles aren’t reversed, Trumpists just caved.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Can we just agree that, whenever you’re about to say something I said is laughable, you should stop and type “is that what you meant to say?” Instead.

The American left has, since at least the new deal and progressive movement era, attempted to use the government to shape society and societal morals into their own image.

The right has attempted to adhere to a moralistic or religious model of society.

If you want to contest this, you need to take it up with people much smarter and more informed than I am.

Those roles aren’t reversed, Trumpists just caved.
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No we can’t agree. The view you’re attaching to “the right” as using morality as the primary guide I reject, that is the “evangelical right”.

Like it or not with the only two choices available in the last election morality was already off the table. I at least chose Johnson. So you trying a “you’ve abdicated your views by continuing to support him” shaming sales job in an attempt to quash support is a non starter. Hey if he gets primaried ok. Not gonna happen.

He won. Line up the with left and choose a better candidate to beat him. I’m not really interested in your shaming rhetoric and hyperbole in keeping him there.

And if you want him removed before then find a viable offense which meets the bar for removal. Run along and work on that now.
 
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CNN Attempt to Prove Trump Wrong Fails Epically

CNN anchor Chris Cuomo unsuccessfully tried to prove President Donald Trump wrong about the mechanics of telephones Thursday, humiliating himself on live TV.

"Very interesting theory from our president," Cuomo said, starting a phone call with his mother. "He's never been able to hear a phone call when it wasn't on speakerphone—from anybody. So let's just play with that for a second. Mom can you hear me?"

Cuomo then fumbled through an attempted conversation between him, his mother, and CNN correspondent Dana Bash, without speaker phone on. Nobody could hear anything from the phone.

"Mom? Mom? She probably can't hear me," he said.

Then he turned on speakerphone and asked again, and his mother said, "I hear you." But when he turned speakerphone off, they went back to not being able to hear each other, just as Trump said would happen.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Can we just agree that, whenever you’re about to say something I said is laughable, you should stop and type “is that what you meant to say?” Instead.

The American left has, since at least the new deal and progressive movement era, attempted to use the government to shape society and societal morals into their own image.

The right has attempted to adhere to a moralistic or religious model of society.

If you want to contest this, you need to take it up with people much smarter and more informed than I am.

Those roles aren’t reversed, Trumpists just caved.
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lol
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Court Docs: DNA Test Confirms Hunter Biden as Father of Arkansas Baby

A DNA test has established Hunter Biden, former Vice President Joe Biden’s youngest son, as the father of a baby born out of wedlock in Arkansas, according to a motion filed in the state by the child’s mother’s legal counsel.

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Court Docs: DNA Test Confirms Hunter Biden as Father of Arkansas Baby
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He's a douche. I said so yesterday. Doesn't change the fact that Trump engaged in impeachable offenses because of him.
 
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