Dooley, Butch, or Pruitt

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#26
Dooley took over the most talent which was still terrible. Jones & Pruitt took over dumpster fires.
 
#27
#27
Dooley had the most talent. Butch easily had the worst. He didn't even have enough lineman to field a team when he took over. Dooley's recruiting will go down as the worst ever. Butch got more out his players in the first couple of years than any previous coach. Then the wheels came off.
 
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About 2 months ago I really would have struggled to answer this question. It appears that Pruitt has taken a large step ahead of the other two for now.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
Are you high? Lane inherited 6 NFL draft picks. Have 6 guys been drafted since? And a CFL hero.

Pruitt has actually done more with less by far. It's a damn shame how hard he screwed the pooch on GA State and BYU.
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Eric Berry apparently was not a very talented player per Karnsvol
 
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VolforFootball said:
Of our 3 most recent head coaches, which one inherited the least amount of talent in terms of scholarship players, and which one inherited the most amount of talent?
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Dooley was robbed of a huge upset win at LSU by the officials. Butch had several very close upsets just falling short in the last minutes. Now in his second year Pruitt has had his near upswin at Alabama. So far, I don't see any difference between the three.
 
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Dooley easily had more talent. Cupboard was dry when Butch took over, but honestly it was more of an issue of his gimmicky coaching philosophy not working in the SEC. A better coach would have gotten more out of Dooley's players. Butch could recruit. Gotta give him that. He was a heckuva car salesman. But a bunch of his players ended up transfering out or medically retired.
 
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Each one of the inherited the worst dumpster fire ever in the history of college football. No other coach, ever, in any sport, ever had to overcome what these 3 had to.
 
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Dooley did inherit Lane's recruits. I believe only 6 or 7 players from Lane's recruiting class actually finished their careers at UT.
 
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Tough question. There is a discernable difference between talent "on paper” (ie star ratings and such) vs real "go out and play big boy ball" talent. I think the product on the field shows me that Pruitt inherited thje least. I think Dooley second and Butch inherited the most which enabled him to fool is all a few seasons...almost beating Bama in Tuscaloosa and having big leads against Oklahoma and Florida before the wheels came off. Jones almost put on the appearance of a competent coach for a brief period.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Tough question. There is a discernable difference between talent "on paper” (ie star ratings and such) vs real "go out and play big boy ball" talent. I think the product on the field shows me that Pruitt inherited thje least. I think Dooley second and Butch inherited the most which enabled him to fool is all a few seasons...almost beating Bama in Tuscaloosa and having big leads against Oklahoma and Florida before the wheels came off. Jones almost put on the appearance of a competent coach for a brief period.
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This.

I believe Pruitt inherited the worst football team of the three.
 
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Dooley inherited most talent....

Pruitt inherited least talent.....Lyle left him with a 4-8 team that won ZERO SEC games.....worst in UT history
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Tough question. There is a discernable difference between talent "on paper” (ie star ratings and such) vs real "go out and play big boy ball" talent. I think the product on the field shows me that Pruitt inherited thje least. I think Dooley second and Butch inherited the most which enabled him to fool is all a few seasons...almost beating Bama in Tuscaloosa and having big leads against Oklahoma and Florida before the wheels came off. Jones almost put on the appearance of a competent coach for a brief period.
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Jones did that largely with players his staff recruited rather than players they inherited. It was Dobbs, Hurd, Barnett, and Reeves-Maybin. Jones eventually proved that he wasn't the man for the job, but make no mistake. He inherited a complete disaster. Three players from his first team were drafted. I believe that Cam Sutton was the only other player he inherited that was drafted. It should be said that none of three inherited particularly good teams. My gut says that Dooley inherited the best team since he was the only one to go to a bowl game in year one. Between Jones and Pruitt, I'm inclined to say that Pruitt inherited a more talented team. No one was drafted from his first team, but Kyle Phillips and Shy Tuttle are both making an impact. I also believe that a handful of players he inherited will be drafted this year and next. Of course, he inherited a team coming off the worst season in program history which was the single biggest hurdle for any of the three.
 
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Pruitt inherited a team that had very few players that matched the style of play he wants and a very poor culture. Butch recruited the wrong type of players for the SEC regardless of rankings. Butch won with players that he wouldn't have recruited and lost when he got his team. Pruitt, in one year of really recruiting the type of player he wants, has dramtically changed both
 
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MikeVol44 said:
Dooley inherited most talent....

Pruitt inherited least talent.....Lyle left him with a 4-8 team that won ZERO SEC games.....worst in UT history
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Yet, if you look back at the historical posts, you'd be amazed at how many so called experts, and real UT Vol fans loved, loved boy butch, and defended him at every turn! These guys are not experts and are Vol Fans, but rather coach worshipers-if he's our coach, they worship, this is how we got where we are today. dooley and boy butch should never have been hired, with all the money we spent (and are still spending) on these two clowns, we could have and should have hired a real Football Coach.
 
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MikeVol44 said:
Dooley inherited most talent....

Pruitt inherited least talent.....Lyle left him with a 4-8 team that won ZERO SEC games.....worst in UT history
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Lyle left a terrible culture. Kids had been lied to so much they trusted no one.
 
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I40flyer said:
Yet, if you look back at the historical posts, you'd be amazed at how many so called experts, and real UT Vol fans loved, loved boy butch, and defended him at every turn! These guys are not experts and are Vol Fans, but rather coach worshipers-if he's our coach, they worship, this is how we got where we are today. dooley and boy butch should never have been hired, with all the money we spent (and are still spending) on these two clowns, we could have and should have hired a real Football Coach.
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Well, we have a REAL AD now...and CJP is a REAL head ball coach!

Hamilton never should've panicked and hired Dufus Dooley.....should've named Kippie Brown interim HC and conducted a proper search.
But that's what you get from a bean counter masquerading as an AD.
 
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