Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

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Kingston Vol said:
Yeah, I don’t think anyone expected 10 wins in any of the next three or four years. But how you build matters. You have to show steady improvement and we haven’t done that.

Now, if we ultimately get to that point, you can say none of the middle ground mattered. And I think a lot of people think that way. “If you give him enough time it’ll work no matter what.” I don’t buy that but I understand it.

We should be in a bowl game this year. We just should be. There’s no getting around it. The degree to which the failure to do so should be graded is where people get into some disagreement.
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I don't really disagree with any of this.

He does need more than 16 games... Either way. Nothing is indefinite here.

I've said it for a while... Get to the end of year 4 and let's see what we got.... I'm still willing to do that....
 
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A few days ago people were posting that Tweet about our recent attrition and it made me think of LWS and all the data he had accumulated on attrition from the past. So I dug up an old post of his where he had all SEC attrition for about 14 years. I looked at the most recent 5 years from the date of the post - which was mid-season 2016, and made a league average. This is then compared to our own attrition over the same relative classes.

The outcome is nothing too wild, but we still have almost 10% more attrition than average and our 5th year guys are sorely missing. I figure we'll be short on RS SRs again in a couple years, considering the 2017 class is already cut nearly in half. Including NFL/graduation, we only have 3 RS SRs left out of a class of 30. Now, quite a few programs aren't able to hold onto guys for 5 years. Still, the average in the SEC is having 5 in-house RS SRs (not including incoming transfers). We are down a couple and 1 is a longsnapper.

This is non-graduating/NFL attrition, as LWS states: "Failures were counted for: Non-qualifiers, players getting dismissed, failing school, transfers, just quit playing football or unknown reasons. If players left school early for NFL, I do not count them as failing to complete eligibility."

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We could also look at the overall number that have left to include graduating and the NFL, though this additional margin shouldn't be too different from other schools, especially considering how few have left early. I don't think our use of JUCOs or transfers has been unusual either, though the 3 grad transfers last year have accelerated things a bit for that class. The 4 JUCOs, plus 2 medical retirements, from 2016 also brings that class up to 48% already gone. Tifwiw.
 
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Our boys had a chance to move up to 2nd in the standings and have a better chance at our playoff game. We came out flat. I’ve never saw so many players not care. I’ve got to prep them better and figure out a way to get them amped up. We play a team next week that is legit and they’re already l spazzing out because it’s a Lose and go home. 😪
 
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butchna said:
Rather choke in the postseason than at the bottom of the division. I lied...rather not choke at all.
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I would gladly lose in 3 games to the Cards in exchange for an upset win against Georgia on Saturday.

Unfortunately, since we are Vols and Braves fans, we will lose in 3 games and get hammered Saturday night.
 
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