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Anyone caught selling or giving their tickets to UGA fans should be shot on sight and have their VFL card immediately revoked, banning them from any future UT sporting events... bring out the conceal-carry and make sure scalpers are only selling to UT fans... I am serious. F those puppy rednecks

Absolutely! Like I’ve said before, I work with a pup, Gator and a bammer (sucks). Guess which one I get the most grief from.....the pup. Our company offered to send him back Georgia for a couple of weeks to work at a different facility. He discussed it with his wife, they both agreed he couldn’t if during the TN-GA game. I asked him why, not much harm in them losing? His reply.....so they could laugh, yes, laugh, as in comedy hour. Always been in the despise department:

1. Bammer
2. Jorts (almost a tie)
3. Gawga

Never thought any college team could over take Alabama in my loathing department, Peach State has.
 
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I was at the UCLA game we lost at the Rose Bowl over a decade ago when the fire Fulmer chatter was ratcheted up. I can remember hearing it walking away from the stadium and in the elevator at the hotel. I have been a positive up-beat supporter of the program all these years. I know we have new players and new coaches and they should get the same kind of up beat support moving forward. I slipped up a bit with my posting this week. Sorry. I am looking forward to a successful rebuild and understand and accept there will be bumps along the way. That is all.
 
Nieds isn't going anywhere. just gave him $150k raise, and Pruitt and Fulmer know he can't go anywhere.

the roster has issues. it's good to very good at the oldest spots (15 class) and good to very good at the very youngest spots (19 class). lotta meh in the middle. this really isn't debatable. the 16, 17 classes weren't great. top end was good, but in that 16 class...here's your top 5 highest rated guys for all the star gazers that think we have all this talent that's just being wasted:
Nigel Warrior, JG, Kongbo, Tyler Byrd and Callaway.

next 5: bituli, marquil osbourne, ryan johnson, CFA, alexis johnson.

2 guys out of those 10....?

2017...top 5...Trey Smith, Ty Chandler, Maleik Gray, Eric Crosby, Will Ignont
next 5....Jordan Murphy, Labruzza, Bumphus, Butler, Kivon Bennett

maybe 3 or 4 if you want to count the recent contributions of Bumphus and Bennet........?

i'm leaving the 18 class out for now simply because there's several red shirts involved, and it'll be better judged next season. but i dont' think i'd be going out on a limb in saying that there's some questions in that class too.....

aside from Jennings and Taylor, the lone leftovers from the 15 class, out of these 20 kids, this is the group we should be seeing leading the team, setting the tone and being significant contributors or starters...that are PRODUCTIVE.

there's just not enough of them...and way too many "busts".

i'm not telling you i think the coaches are awesome. i am telling you that the roster is #1 on the list of things that needs fixed before we do anything--specifically DL/Pass rush and QB. and firing pruitt now doesn't help with that....if nothing else, i think he and this staff have at least shown they can evaluate and recruit. so let them continue to do that.

if this thing continues to go south, well, there's only way it ends anyway. in the meantime, we should be doing whatever we need to to rebuild the roster....and i'm sorry, all the coach and player bashing in the world just doesn't do a thing to help in this regard.

so if for no other reason than that, we need any and all reasons to believe in the future.....it's gonna be the 21 season before we're able to a) judge progress from now to then and b)see what the direction really is.....this is assuming Pruitt isn't fired. i don't see us signing an instant impact, top 5 type class this year, so you take the foundation of this 19 class and foundation of the 20 class, and you have develop the rest....and that just won't happen overnight.

if he is fired, then it's 22 or 23 before we get answers to those questions, depending on what year he's fired....the new guy will have the same problems, with what would probably be a patchwork 20 class, and he'll likely have a frankenstein roster of CBJ, CJP and the new guy's kids on it.....

either way, i think i'm more convinced now than i was before, that this is a longer rebuild than many thought....there is no "just get a good coach and we'll be instantly better" fix. that's just dumb. it's at least as big a gamble as keeping CJP for any extended period of time....we haven't gotten our first choice when the situation was better than it is now, so i don't know why there's still a notion we could go do it this time around, when the situation is what it is currently...(roster questions, leadership questions, booster questions etc...)

Pruitt isn't perfect, and he's made too many mistakes. no one can really aruge that. but most of what we're dealing with, and will be dealing with, is situationally driven...and having an understanding of the situation (or at least a willingness to acknowledge that it exists) would go a long way with how most of us react to what's going on right now. you factor in ESD and the 25 cap rule coming in to play at the exact same time we hired this guy, with the need to flip the roster, well, those two rules don't exactly help a program/coach in our current predicament....we're at leat 2 cycles of 25 away from doing that.

no one should be happy with what we're having to deal with........again. and no one should think things SHOULDN'T change. but there are things that can be changed quicker than others....and we're seeing some of that already take place with the portal, and i'm sure we'll see some more at the end of the season as i would expect a couple coaches to change.....

there's a realistic way of looking at this situation and how to approach it....and there's a very trollish way to do it.....you decide which is which....

nb4 tl;dr.... :)
Holy word count, Batman. Now, I guess I have to go and read it.
 
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I was at the UCLA game we lost at the Rose Bowl over a decade ago when the fire Fulmer chatter was ratcheted up. I can remember hearing it walking away from the stadium and in the elevator at the hotel. I have been a positive up-beat supporter of the program all these years. I know we have new players and new coaches and they should get the same kind of up beat support moving forward. I slipped up a bit with my posting this week. Sorry. I am looking forward to a successful rebuild and understand and accept there will be bumps along the way. That is all.
The score wasn’t what we wanted but that was a great experience for our family. Weather was wonderful, sun setting over the Santa Monica Mountains was beautiful during the game, a few days at the beach, touring Hollywood and caught a NASCAR race in Fontana. UCLA fans were as shocked they won as we were we lost.
 
So if Pruitt gets a pass this year, whats the min # of wins he needs to keep his job in 2020? I see 6 wins there max.
  • Sept. 5 — Charlotte
  • Sept. 12 — at Oklahoma
  • Sept. 19 — Furman
  • Sept. 26 — Florida
  • Oct. 3 — Missouri
  • Oct. 10 — at South Carolina
  • Oct. 24 — Alabama
  • Oct. 31 — at Arkansas
  • Nov. 7 – Kentucky
  • Nov. 14 — at Georgia
  • Nov. 21 — Troy
  • Nov. 28 — at Vanderbilt
 
So if Pruitt gets a pass this year, whats the min # of wins he needs to keep his job in 2020? I see 6 wins there max.
  • Sept. 5 — Charlotte
  • Sept. 12 — at Oklahoma
  • Sept. 19 — Furman
  • Sept. 26 — Florida
  • Oct. 3 — Missouri
  • Oct. 10 — at South Carolina
  • Oct. 24 — Alabama
  • Oct. 31 — at Arkansas
  • Nov. 7 – Kentucky
  • Nov. 14 — at Georgia
  • Nov. 21 — Troy
  • Nov. 28 — at Vanderbilt
How do you see 6 wins.. who knows what this team is next year... hell, we don’t know what this team will be next week
 
The score wasn’t what we wanted but that was a great experience for our family. Weather was wonderful, sun setting over the Santa Monica Mountains was beautiful during the game, a few days at the beach, touring Hollywood and caught a NASCAR race in Fontana. UCLA fans were as shocked they won as we were we lost.

I spent a week out there as well. Saw Radiohead live at the Hollywood Bowl. Saw some Shakespeare at an amphitheater in Topanga Canyon. Enjoyed the beach as well. Met my dad for the game. Left the stadium with RN leading Bruin Nation in song.
 
SIAP

Quote from Ubben interview with Jacquez Jones in The Athletic:

When asked what he's looking for...

"More of a passing team. That’s all I can say. One that throws the ball down the field. That’s really it."

When asked what he thinks the program will look like next year...

"Coach (Jeremy) Pruitt, if they keep him it’ll be great. He’s a great coach. He’s a motivator. He’s putting guys in position to make plays. I just wasn’t recruited by those guys, and I think it’s right for the school and right for the coaching staff. I wish nothing but the best for the university and state of Tennessee. It just wasn’t for me anymore. I had to move on."
What a classy thing to say. I wish nothing but the best for him.
 
So if Pruitt gets a pass this year, whats the min # of wins he needs to keep his job in 2020? I see 6 wins there max.
  • Sept. 5 — Charlotte
  • Sept. 12 — at Oklahoma
  • Sept. 19 — Furman
  • Sept. 26 — Florida
  • Oct. 3 — Missouri
  • Oct. 10 — at South Carolina
  • Oct. 24 — Alabama
  • Oct. 31 — at Arkansas
  • Nov. 7 – Kentucky
  • Nov. 14 — at Georgia
  • Nov. 21 — Troy
  • Nov. 28 — at Vanderbilt
Georgia probably ends this experiment next year.

Gonna depend on the defense taking a HUGE step but I don’t think the depth is there in the defensive front seven to do it.

QB play will likely still be very spotty breaking in a new full time starter - likely to be either a true Sophomore or true freshman. We’ll probably lose our three best playmakers on offense - Chandler, Jennings and Callaway.
 
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