Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[HankHill]

Kiffin ran it against SC when we wore the black uni’s. Love that play.

Wow i don’t remember that. I remember him being at bama and running a wheel route with amari cooper out of the backfield.

 

[TrippieRedd]

I guess we will find out how good of recruiters our staff is because they are in deep. Sign days are all we have to look forward to.

Top 10 class or bust.

Rakim Jarrett
Reggie Grimes
Jay Hardy
Save'll Smalls

Like he said, Top 10 or bust.

 

[KPT_VFL]

Like he said, Top 10 or bust.

If it happens I’ll be back on board because that’s arguably harder than winning a national championship at this point.

 

[HankHill]

Yep, he’s should have never dropped it. That said no one likes a fast ball coming at your face.

A QB should throw a catchable ball and JG isn’t very good at throwing catchable balls.

JJ should have caught it but I completely understand why he didn’t.

It reminded of me in basketball when you have a guy standing under the basket wide open and instead of a simple pass you rocket it to him and it bounces off his hands.

Catchable? Yes. But bad decision and execution. It’s about having awareness of the type of throw you need there.

 

[Kingston Vol]

I’m so dang conflicted on what we should do. I just think we are going to be better off swallowing our pride and ride this out. Give him 2 more years and see how we are progressing. Don’t get me wrong, I have seen things that made me say he’s not the guy but maybe he will learn from his mistakes and we can eventually turn this crap around. Maybe he can grow into the guy.

Think I have reached acceptance stage of grief

The answer is you don’t give an answer. Make no commitments- and I’m sure Fulmer is doing the same thing.

He only gets another year if he earns it. He only gets a second year if he deserves that. You don’t throw your hands in the air and say “oh we suck” and write a blank check.

If he’s going to make it here then he can beat Vandy, UAB and one of Kentucky, South Carolina and Mississippi State. It’s not asking too much to expect those things.

 

[TrippieRedd]

If it happens I’ll be back on board because that’s arguably harder than winning a national championship at this point.

Honestly just trying to be hopeful. Like you, if we sign a top 10 class I'd ****, but it will prob be more like 14-18, sorta like the 2018 class, unless he recruits out of his mind these next few months.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

If we only win 2 games and don't fire Pruitt then Fulmer should be fired immediately and have the next AD fire him. I'm all for giving a coach time but even Dooley or Butch wouldn't lose 10 games with this roster. 2 wins at Tennessee is coaching malpractice of the highest degree, period.

I agree. Winning two games is never acceptable. And it is not as if the East is some strong division right now either. I am saying we just have to wait and see how the season unfolds. If he manages 5-6 then he is safe. If he wins 2-3. He needs to go or fans will be completely checked out.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Well...in my family it was about being a Tennessean, which I realize a lot of people here aren't. It was about Us vs Them...and growing up in the late 70s early 80s we endured a lot of humiliation, but it was a "Tennessee Volunteers don't quit when they are outmanned" attitude that was drilled into me by my pappaws as they would talk about Tennesseans getting annihilated at the Alamo, or destroying the Brits at New Orleans.

And that idea, that underdog stubbornness, was perfectly personified by the 85 Vols and even the 88 Vols in a weird way.

That is why the last few years have rubbed me so raw about the team that represents...US...all the softness, quitting, and don't care is just sickening to me..

Now this team, or at least some few members of this team may have some of those qualities as their default mode still, but I have decided that I am not going to let that attitude ruin me...the team may not truly represent the..US..that my grandfathers would talk about...but I sure can, so I have made up my mind that I will not quit just because the going is tougher than I ever believed it could be...It just does not matter because...my blood flows Tennessee Volunteer Orange and always will.

And I'm still here in case anybody was wondering, there is just nothing to say except that surely someday this nightmare will end, and I will still be a Vol one way or the other.

 

[HankHill]

I guess we will find out how good of recruiters our staff is because they are in deep. Sign days are all we have to look forward to.

Right now it sucks bc we’re getting virtually no quality production out of Pruitts initial class. Especially with the regression of A. Taylor, Bryce, and flowers.

You’re getting absolutely nothing out of:
Shrout
Jj Peterson
Warren
Antonutti
Kingston Harris
Brandon Davis
Jordan Allen*** hurt
Gooden***hurt

Virtually nothing out of:
Carvin
Jahmir
Mincey
Tillman
Kenneth George
Banks (no position)

Emerson, DWA, And garland have played and had production but they aren’t difference makers. Brooks has been great on kicks fwiw.

Also none the GRad transfers or jucos we’ve gotten have been difference makers.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

The answer is you don’t give an answer. Make no commitments- and I’m sure Fulmer is doing the same thing.

He only gets another year if he earns it. He only gets a second year if he deserves that. You don’t throw your hands in the air and say “oh we suck” and write a blank check.

If he’s going to make it here then he can beat Vandy, UAB and one of Kentucky, South Carolina and Mississippi State. It’s not asking too much to expect those things.

Exactly how I feel.

 

[AppStVol]

Right now it sucks bc we’re getting virtually no quality production out of Pruitts initial class. Especially with the regression of A. Taylor, Bryce, and flowers.

You’re getting absolutely nothing out of:
Shrout
Jj Peterson
Warren
Antonutti
Kingston Harris
Brandon Davis
Jordan Allen*** hurt
Gooden***hurt

Virtually nothing out of:
Carvin
Jahmir
Mincey
Tillman
Kenneth George
Banks (no position)

Emerson, DWA, And garland have played and had production but they aren’t difference makers. Brooks has been great on kicks fwiw.

Also none the GRad transfers or jucos we’ve gotten have been difference makers.

LOL. He was stuck and had no choice with half of those players given the time crunch of signing day. You are also conveniently leaving out the fact that guys like Shrout, Banks, Jahmir, Carvin, George, Davis, Tillman, Peterson have been passed by the TRUE FRESHMAN Pruitt recruited.

Don't get it twisted, all the misses in 16 and 17 are what is killing this team.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Firing Pruitt this year would be completely stupid. You will not get a better coach and staff...there is zero to gain from it. If you do, you better get used to 2-10 seasons because that will be our spot for a long while.

 

[RyanWalkerPGH]

Like he said, Top 10 or bust.

Are you kidding? They aren't sniffing the top 10.

 

[HankHill]

LOL. He was stuck and had no choice with half of those players given the time crunch of signing day.

Don't get it twisted, all the misses in 16 and 17 are what is killing this team.

That didn’t stop Dooley from getting several immediate difference makers in his initial class when he got here under far worse circumstances.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

LOL. He was stuck and had no choice with half of those players given the time crunch of signing day.

Don't get it twisted, all the misses in 16 and 17 are what is killing this team.

He won't ever admit that..he is Bitch's boy...lol.



Jk Hank...sort of..

 

[TrippieRedd]

Are you kidding? They aren't sniffing the top 10.

It’s a joke...smh.
Look at my after post about being hopeful.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

D

That didn’t stop Dooley from getting several immediate difference makers in his initial class when he got here under far worse circumstances.

Dooley didn'y have a decade and a half of suck to sell either and you know it.

 

[ionaVOL]

Right now it sucks bc we’re getting virtually no quality production out of Pruitts initial class. Especially with the regression of A. Taylor, Bryce, and flowers.

You’re getting absolutely nothing out of:
Shrout
Jj Peterson
Warren
Antonutti
Kingston Harris
Brandon Davis
Jordan Allen*** hurt
Gooden***hurt

Virtually nothing out of:
Carvin
Jahmir
Mincey
Tillman
Kenneth George
Banks (no position)

Emerson, DWA, And garland have played and had production but they aren’t difference makers. Brooks has been great on kicks fwiw.

Also none the GRad transfers or jucos we’ve gotten have been difference makers.

Ehh I don't love this post.

Taylor, Thompson, Gooden are damn good players/contributors/difference makers. Flowers, Jahmir, Emerson, DWA and Garland have given them major snaps. Carvin, Mincey, Tillman, Banks and now George have all found the field and at least have some potential moving forward. That's 13 solid to rotational players from a class, that's not a fault I can put on Pruitt.

 

[AppStVol]

That didn’t stop Dooley from getting several immediate difference makers in his initial class when he got here under far worse circumstances.

Dooley also didn't have to combat early signing period in December...

 

[Kingston Vol]

Firing Pruitt this year would be completely stupid. You will not get a better coach and staff...there is zero to gain from it. If you do, you better get used to 2-10 seasons because that will be our spot for a long while.

You’re asking me to get used to 2-10 seasons because you want to keep the coach who just (theoretically) went through one.

 

[SLICKYINC]

That didn’t stop Dooley from getting several immediate difference makers in his initial class when he got here under far worse circumstances.

 

[HankHill]

How is that losing? It’s a recent example that it can be done even under worse circumstances instead of just taking the lazy route like we always around here with every head coach and blame the previous staff.

 

[SLICKYINC]

How is that losing? It’s a recent example that it can be done even under worse circumstances instead of just taking the lazy route like we always around here with every head coach and blame the previous staff.

 

[chargervol]

I think Pruitt is just riding with JG to get past Bama. Then he goes with the young guys. I think they get snaps every game, but after Bama they turn them lose. Why feed them to the wolves and kill their confidence in guaranteed losses like UGA & Bama ? Have a solid package for them in the Mississippi St game then start one of them at home against USCjr

Probably for the best. If asked before the anger and frustration of the season, if we should start a freshmen against Ga, I would have laughed and said "if we want to ruin him". Most here would've..if being honest.

But Idc, I've saved every game and scrimmage, plus remember all the reports. He's become the fan favorite, and definitely not because of production, but simply because he's not JG. BM is a turnover machine (my goodness, he was picked off twice by our defense in limited play)
But so is JG these days.

Trot whichever out there, they'll get there in 2 different ways but no matter, it'll end the same.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Exactly how I feel.

People lower their expectations weekly and it drives me nuts.

Preseason: “I think 7 wins is the floor. Look at that schedule!”
After Ga State: “well they’ve gotta beat BYU”
After BYU: “gonna need to see a ton vs UTC and Florida”
After Florida: “write a blank check for four years. We don’t have a pulse.”

In one month - four weeks! - this place went from “6 or 7 win floor with an outside chance at 8 or 9 wins” to “he needs to be able to survive 2-10 and give him 4 years to get this right!” It’s insane.