Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

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LynxVol said:
I’m surprised people are questioning whether guys played hard under Butch his first couple years. I rarely saw a lack of effort. The wheels fell off for Butch when the gimmicks didn’t work anymore. His coaching staff selections were under scrutiny, and his player management became questionable. Player development was always a problem under that staff, but I think there was more of a snowball effect of several events that led to culture problems in his last year or arguably last 2 years.
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Mostly it's a 100% useless point.
Saying Jones did something with an entirely different group of guys to make a point about this group.

The ones that are left here now went 4 and 8 under his apparent ability to motivate.
 
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chargervol said:
Mostly it's a 100% useless point.
Saying Jones did something with an entirely different group of guys to make a point about this group.

The ones that are left here now went 4 and 8 under his apparent ability to motivate.
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yeah, that's that cliff i mentioned...........lol and he didn't do us any favors with the attrition rates those two big classes had, nor with what he brought in that 17 class.

to say he flamed out badly would still probably be an understatement.
 
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jakez4ut said:
yep. all this. those first couple years, we were one of the least penalized teams in the league.

there was a lot to hang your hat on at the very beginning. they didn't make a ton of mistakes and they palyed hard.

then it fell off a cliff.

maybe we're doing it in reverse this time????
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Losing Mark Elder off of CBJ staff was a big loss. After he left special teams dropped off and penalties increased. He is doing a pretty good job at E. Kentucky. He inherited a mess at EKU
 
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Ace said:
Losing Mark Elder off of CBJ staff was a big loss. After he left special teams dropped off and penalties increased. He is doing a pretty good job at E. Kentucky. He inherited a mess at EKU
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i wish there was only one mistake he made. sadly, that's just one of many that had a very unfotunate culmaltive affect for us.
 
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Ace said:
Losing Mark Elder off of CBJ staff was a big loss. After he left special teams dropped off and penalties increased. He is doing a pretty good job at E. Kentucky. He inherited a mess at EKU
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Not a big drop on ST
 
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Hello everyone, it's my first post since like Saturday morning of last week.

I wanted to steer clear of all the radiation from the nuclear meltdowns I was sure happened last weekend and all throughout the week.

Let's hope for a better game today.

Vols by 17.
 
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So do I save the liver for the actual game ? Or do I go on and pickle it now ? Trying to figure out the best way to cope with tonight lol #GBO🍊
 
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