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titansvolsfaninga said:
Visibility today is much different than visibility 50 years ago. If you are a good player, you will get noticed and get drafted. With the way social media and information is shared, a good player at any level will get recognized. Playing in front of 100K crowds is not really putting any "money" in the student-athletes pocket. It is a mindset of being able to compete against the best that draws most athletes to larger schools. Black Americans were not allowed to attend southern colleges until the 50's - 60's. But now some of those same southern schools clamor for the Black American athlete. So she raises a valid question as to would those athletes be better off at HBCU's. Better off is subjective. The main point of going to college is to grow and mature and be a productive member of society when you leave.
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So you think an athlete has just as good a chance at being drafted just as high at Grambling as at Alabama? What about coaching and development? Grambling or Alabama?
 
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jakez4ut said:
i'm sure the way Kirby managed some in game scenarios that first year gave some UGA fans pause too. they fired a guy that jusut won 10 games and the new guy took the same team to an 8-5 record. and Kirby looked shell shocked at times that first year, and he made plenty of mistakes, especially managing the game and situational football.

but situations being what they are, by year 2, he got that year 2 bump....in large part because the lions' share of that defense stuck around and chub and michel stuck around.

there's no real comparing Kirby, Day, Orgeron, or Riely's situations to Pruitt's. and i know orgeron wasn't in that group, but you think he's really THAT much better a head coach today than he was at Ole Miss? no, but LSU is A LOT different than Ole Miss....that much i can say with confidence.

and none of that means pruitt is or isn't going to be good.

but the comparison, and expectaiton from that comparison is just lazy.................
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The point is that you have 4 high level schools that hired coordinators with no head coaching experience. Has very little to do with their situations. People are complaining that Pruitt was hired at our school without any head coaching experience. That's the landscape now in college football. If the jobs at Alabama, Auburn, Texas, or Florida State come open, would they have hired Ryan Day or even Linoln Riley before he was a head coach? Probably not. But that's what UGA, OU, and OSU did.

If that's lazy, then so be it. You still have to coach, bring in a culture, organize, and recruit.
 
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C-town Vol said:
A few days later, I look at the Georgia St. game as...

1. The embarrassment that becomes the turning point for our program. The culture changes. We toughen up. We develop some fight. The talent starts trickling in. We look back and say that game, as brutal as it was, stands as the turning point.

2. The day the Jeremy Pruitt era unofficially ended, and the further delay (3-5 years) of our historic program turning the corner back to respectability.

Man I sure hope it’s #1.
Thing is, we will probably know the answer by the end of the BYU game.
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I don't think we will know after BYU. I also hope it is option 1.
 
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UTSuave’ said:
But a throw in double coverage isn’t a even bigger whole? given the odds of a higher possibility of the football being intercepted 👀🤯 you’re just being irrational now.😂😂 so we will just agree to disagree.🤘🏽🍊 go vols.

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lol.

No I am saying he should have thrown the ball away.


You are saying he should have reversed his field, scrambled and thrown it to JJ. That might have ended in a pick 6, a sack and the clock running out or a TD.

It’s clear what should have happened and JG didn’t do that in throwing the ball away.
 
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VolGee4 said:
The point is that you have 4 high level schools that hired coordinators with no head coaching experience. Has very little to do with their situations. People are complaining that Pruitt was hired at our school without any head coaching experience. That's the landscape now in college football. If the jobs at Alabama, Auburn, Texas, or Florida State come open, would they have hired Ryan Day or even Linoln Riley before he was a head coach? Probably not. But that's what UGA, OU, and OSU did.

If that's lazy, then so be it. You still have to coach, bring in a culture, organize, and recruit.
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ok, i misunderstood. my issue is the expectations based on the comparison, not that he hasn't been a head coach before. at some point, every head coach was a first time head coach.
 
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VolGee4 said:
The point is that you have 4 high level schools that hired coordinators with no head coaching experience. Has very little to do with their situations. People are complaining that Pruitt was hired at our school without any head coaching experience. That's the landscape now in college football. If the jobs at Alabama, Auburn, Texas, or Florida State come open, would they have hired Ryan Day or even Linoln Riley before he was a head coach? Probably not. But that's what UGA, OU, and OSU did.

If that's lazy, then so be it. You still have to coach, bring in a culture, organize, and recruit.
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Yep good post.

Very very few programs are hiring proven guys. Heck UCLA did it and it doesn’t look good.
 
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jakez4ut said:
ok, i misunderstood. my issue is the expectations based on the comparison, not that he hasn't been a head coach before. at some point, every head coach was a first time head coach.
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No, I don't expect him to be as successful right now as those other coaches. Just want progress. But I think most need to realize that hiring coaches without head coaching experience is happening at many places.
 
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