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gunner said:
Yes, can they move on from him? Is Mauer even close to being ready yet? He looks to have plenty of moxey!
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Dude I don’t care which Freshman QBs get to play, heck I say give JT his shot if he struggles you give Maurer his shot. One of those is bound to pan out. JG should never see the field again.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
JG sadly is a “fantasy stat” QB it appears.

65% 311 yds 2 TDs 1 INT

Great game right? 😖


I will take Dobbs and his 54% with 186 yds and the W back over this mindset any day.
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Had that first 115 mph fastball he threw to Chandler not been behind LOS that would have been called a n interception too. Georgia State guy caught it.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
JG sadly is a “fantasy stat” QB it appears.

65% 311 yds 2 TDs 1 INT

Great game right? 😖


I will take Dobbs and his 54% with 186 yds and the W back over this mindset any day.
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What’s JG’s record as a starter?

Tee Martin didn’t have the best QB stats or rating either but he usually found a way to win!
 
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millst987 said:
He’s looking out for himself man. He’s only throwing the easy completions so he can get super grades on his PFF for the NFL. He’s a selfish player, only looking out for himself at this point.
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I agree that JG was a big part of the problem, but he's not doing anything for the NFL. No way in hell he's an NFL caliber player playing like he did yesterday. NFL scouts watch game tapes. They see what's going on. IMO, JG looks like he's playing scared. I thought the OL did okay protecting him but he was hesitant to pull the trigger on anything downfield and kept settling for dumping short passes. GA ST was able to key on that, and credit to them, make those tackles. Again, JMO, but the more thought I put into it, the more blame I put on JG. And it sucks, because I've defended him in the past, but he did a piss poor job yesterday with both reads and throws.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
My thoughts:

The one thing that has been keeping me going as a TN fan all these years is hope. Hope is all that we have had. After firing Fulmer, we hoped that Kiffin was the guy. Then, we hoped against hope that Dooley was the guy. Then I bought into the fake hope that Jones provided and hoped, and for a time thought, that he was the guy.

Before yesterday, I felt that I knew that what I had hoped for had arrived. Pruitt was going to be the guy. How could he not be? Best defensive coach in college football who went out and hired the best staff in college football. He brought in Jim Chaney to control the one area where we needed the most help: the offense. On top of that, he brought in some superstar talent for the OL and the defense. Surely this would be a big jump for us this year.

All offseason I have thought that we would see the kind of jump in year 2 that Kirby had at GA in year 2. No, we weren't going to win 12 games and go to the playoff, but I thought the culture would be in place. I thought that guys would be flying around, making place, playing with the kind of intensity that you need to win in the SEC. But yesterday what I saw was completely the opposite. I saw the same thing yesterday that I saw in the Vandy game last year. I saw a team full of quitters who didn't care whether we won or lost. Their post game comments, especially JG's, tell that story. That guy cannot see that he played poorly. He either can't see it, can't admit it, or he doesn't care. I fear that its the latter. There is no fire or fight in this team. Maybe that's not the case with the younger players, I'm not sure. But if the younger players play with passion and a desire to win, then bench all of the older that don't and play all of your guys. That starts with JG. I don't care if we win 3 games. I'd rather win 3 games with Maurer giving his best than with JG who just doesn't care.

The same problems that have plagued us were there yesterday. Our OL is still bad. Our DL got pushed around by an OL that wouldn't be recruited by any team outside the sunbelt. We played soft and weak. This wasn't supposed to happen in year 2 under Fitz and under Pruitt. But it has. Here we are again. JG, even with Chaney, was still awful. Our guys still quit when the going got tough. And it seemed that they didn't even care.

But you can't just blame the team. So much of this falls on coach Pruitt. That team that played yesterday was unprepared. They believed they would walk out there and win just because their jersey has Tennessee written on it. They were not prepared. They were misaligned so many times on defense; on DEFENSE! That's supposed to be Pruitt's specialty. something is missing here. Is it Pruitt? Is it Ansley? Whoever it is, it needs to be fixed now. There is no excuse for that in year 2, game 1. But Pruitt was also making other strange mistakes. He was subbing on the DL every play! He was moving the OL around all game long, even when we were losing! And he was playing young guys with no experience like Banks at Linebacker and Grey as a blocker in key moments of the 4th quarter. Why?

It is clear after yesterday that Pruitt is in over his head. Now, there are a couple of options. They could fire him. And if he has the type of season I fear he's about to have, they probably will. But then where are we? Starting over with a new staff that won't be as good as this one and probably a recruiting class ranked in the 30's putting us even more behind. Maybe there's a better option. Maybe Fulmer needs to take Pruitt and sit-down with him, Tee, Chaney, Ansley, and Rumph, and point out the ways he's messing up and what he needs to do to fix them. There have been coaches in over their heads before, and they trusted their coaching staff, and the team got better. Maybe this is what Pruitt needs to do. Maybe he won't do it, maybe he will. But something is broken over there and it has to be fixed.

If it isn't fixed, then I'm afraid that, for the first time, I will have to acknowledge that Tennessee football is dead. Maybe forever. If this coaching staff can't fix this problem with Fulmer as AD, who can? Gruden isn't coming; Gundy isn't coming; Peterson isn't coming. Where do we turn now? Who knows, maybe on Saturday we see a different team. But I doubt it.

I have no more hope left.
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Hahahaha I didn’t even read that crap. Hope you’re happy with YOUR coach while you openly bitch about Snit!
 
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volatil said:
Had that first 115 mph fastball he threw to Chandler not been behind LOS that would have been called a n interception too. Georgia State guy caught it.
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So it was a fumble? If so that’s on the QB because he was the last one with possession of the ball.
 
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#187,733
Bassmaster_Vol said:
My thoughts:

The one thing that has been keeping me going as a TN fan all these years is hope. Hope is all that we have had. After firing Fulmer, we hoped that Kiffin was the guy. Then, we hoped against hope that Dooley was the guy. Then I bought into the fake hope that Jones provided and hoped, and for a time thought, that he was the guy.

Before yesterday, I felt that I knew that what I had hoped for had arrived. Pruitt was going to be the guy. How could he not be? Best defensive coach in college football who went out and hired the best staff in college football. He brought in Jim Chaney to control the one area where we needed the most help: the offense. On top of that, he brought in some superstar talent for the OL and the defense. Surely this would be a big jump for us this year.

All offseason I have thought that we would see the kind of jump in year 2 that Kirby had at GA in year 2. No, we weren't going to win 12 games and go to the playoff, but I thought the culture would be in place. I thought that guys would be flying around, making place, playing with the kind of intensity that you need to win in the SEC. But yesterday what I saw was completely the opposite. I saw the same thing yesterday that I saw in the Vandy game last year. I saw a team full of quitters who didn't care whether we won or lost. Their post game comments, especially JG's, tell that story. That guy cannot see that he played poorly. He either can't see it, can't admit it, or he doesn't care. I fear that its the latter. There is no fire or fight in this team. Maybe that's not the case with the younger players, I'm not sure. But if the younger players play with passion and a desire to win, then bench all of the older that don't and play all of your guys. That starts with JG. I don't care if we win 3 games. I'd rather win 3 games with Maurer giving his best than with JG who just doesn't care.

The same problems that have plagued us were there yesterday. Our OL is still bad. Our DL got pushed around by an OL that wouldn't be recruited by any team outside the sunbelt. We played soft and weak. This wasn't supposed to happen in year 2 under Fitz and under Pruitt. But it has. Here we are again. JG, even with Chaney, was still awful. Our guys still quit when the going got tough. And it seemed that they didn't even care.

But you can't just blame the team. So much of this falls on coach Pruitt. That team that played yesterday was unprepared. They believed they would walk out there and win just because their jersey has Tennessee written on it. They were not prepared. They were misaligned so many times on defense; on DEFENSE! That's supposed to be Pruitt's specialty. something is missing here. Is it Pruitt? Is it Ansley? Whoever it is, it needs to be fixed now. There is no excuse for that in year 2, game 1. But Pruitt was also making other strange mistakes. He was subbing on the DL every play! He was moving the OL around all game long, even when we were losing! And he was playing young guys with no experience like Banks at Linebacker and Grey as a blocker in key moments of the 4th quarter. Why?

It is clear after yesterday that Pruitt is in over his head. Now, there are a couple of options. They could fire him. And if he has the type of season I fear he's about to have, they probably will. But then where are we? Starting over with a new staff that won't be as good as this one and probably a recruiting class ranked in the 30's putting us even more behind. Maybe there's a better option. Maybe Fulmer needs to take Pruitt and sit-down with him, Tee, Chaney, Ansley, and Rumph, and point out the ways he's messing up and what he needs to do to fix them. There have been coaches in over their heads before, and they trusted their coaching staff, and the team got better. Maybe this is what Pruitt needs to do. Maybe he won't do it, maybe he will. But something is broken over there and it has to be fixed.

If it isn't fixed, then I'm afraid that, for the first time, I will have to acknowledge that Tennessee football is dead. Maybe forever. If this coaching staff can't fix this problem with Fulmer as AD, who can? Gruden isn't coming; Gundy isn't coming; Peterson isn't coming. Where do we turn now? Who knows, maybe on Saturday we see a different team. But I doubt it.

I have no more hope left.
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Be honest with me @Bassmaster_Vol when then score went finally how mad were you?..like what were your thoughts? Gucci was just blunt about it like..”yea don’t expect to hear from him soon”👀😂😂😂🤘🏽
 
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gunner said:
Best Chances for a win

1. UTC
2. UAB
3. BYU
4. Vanderbilt
5. Miss State
6. SC
7. Kentucky
8. Mizzou
9. Florida
10. Georgia
11. Alabama
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I know this sounds crazy after how we played yesterday, but those first 8 (in your list) are all winnable. I know UT won't win them all, but UTs talent level is comparable and better than half those 8 teams, imo. Now all UT needs is for the coaching, execution and heart to show up and make the talent win games.
 
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I woke up spitting mad again.

Mainly at the coaches and senior “leaders.”

They better be thumbing through every BYU play for the last couple years. You know they smell blood in the water. SEC teams don’t care, this is not even a notch in their belt.

But these OOC games.... those teams will be licking their chops.
 
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jordan4vols said:
The only thing that would remotely have fans “interested” in remaining games would be a qb change. I tried to hang on but that 4th and 3 where he threw it 10 yards out of bounds was the absolute last straw
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Good thing coaches will go with winning over some vacuuous, and apparently very fickle, nterest.
 
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VolNRaleighNC said:
There will be no external coaching search if Pruitt’s not retained this year. Fulmer will simply promote from within... which most likely will be Tee.
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100% agree. No search. And to be honest, they’ll give Pruitt every chance to keep his job through this. It’s the easiest thing to do.

Otherwise I think you promote Tee and hope like hell Chaney stays.
 
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The Dog said:
I know this sounds crazy after how we played yesterday, but those first 8 (in your list) are all winnable. I know UT won't win them all, but UTs talent level is comparable and better than half those 8 teams, imo. Now all UT needs is for the coaching, execution and heart to show up and make the talent win games.
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My man. Aint nobody else looked good week 1 either. Maybe not this bad, but it's 1 game lol. So much overreaction it's like some are new here
 
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volatil said:
Had that first 115 mph fastball he threw to Chandler not been behind LOS that would have been called a n interception too. Georgia State guy caught it.
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I’m dying laughing at your comment and also at the fact that this is probably the most savage gif response I can think of to define what JG’s first pass actually looked like.👀😂😂😂

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The Dog said:
I know this sounds crazy after how we played yesterday, but those first 8 (in your list) are all winnable. I know UT won't win them all, but UTs talent level is comparable and better than half those 8 teams, imo. Now all UT needs is for the coaching, execution and heart to show up and make the talent win games.
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Agreed. If they keep improving and working. Especially, if one of the Freshman QB’s can come in and play better than what we have seen in the last 3 games.
 
#187,749
#187,749
UTSuave’ said:
Then be content with what JG gives you then👀🤷🏽‍♂️ And that’s 18 total Touchdowns and 6 interceptions in 3 years😁👍🏽 Starting a freshman QB is never pretty or easy but sometimes it has to be done atleast he will Be inspired to play and try to win.he would still have two weeks to prepare before Florida.its not like “petermans” case where he just showed up and had to play..
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Whoever the coaches believe gives us the best chance of winning should be the QB. I fully believe that's what the coaches do and will do. I don't give a hoot what year he is. Don't start him because he's freshman. Don't keep him on the bench because he's a freshman. Hate of JG aside, we have NO reason to believe the other guys give us a better chance of winning.
 
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