Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[cHiZzLeVOL]

I think so but doubt that is the case. We always let all four tires go flat before we change the first one that blew out. We've got to be riding on the rims before we acknowledge the need for a new set.

Every Head Coach deserves 3 years. More then that. No.

 

[BubbaWms]

on the bright side, We are not last in the SEC East

 

[StoVol]

If Pruitt goes 5-7 again this year...you have to let him go right?

where in the hell do you see 5 wins? if GSU can beat us Chatt and UAB surely can

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I am a Tennessee Vol...nothing will ever change that. I will still defiantly wear my orange and white everywhere I go no matter how bad the abuse gets. I will not hang my head in shame, but I can't smile through the humiliation either.


This is not our fault...we have been betrayed for a decade and a half by the UT administration...every coaching staff paid insane money to give little effort..and this pathetic excuse of a team.


Yeah...I am furious at all of them.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Buyout is not as bad as our other ex wives, I mean ex coaches.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

on the bright side, We are not last in the SEC East

Thanks USCjr

 

[Kingston Vol]

If Pruitt goes 5-7 again this year...you have to let him go right?

I don’t think so. The writing is on the wall - he won’t be successful here - but you have to let him prove it.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Every Head Coach deserves 3 years. More then that. No.

What if he goes 2-10? All the recruits bail?

 

[volatil]

If Pruitt goes 5-7 again this year...you have to let him go right?

I can’t see them doing it. Catastrophic season 3 wins or less maybe. I said it yesterday if that performance was anywhere other than Tennessee the coach would get fired. We had a debacle of a search and to fire him after two seasons would kill any chance of hiring a quality coach. Who would want to come to this dumpster fire with a chance of being ran out after a couple of years? Administration has proven they will not pay top dollar so what up and comer wants to chance their future?

We are screwed if this plays out

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

What if he goes 2-10? All the recruits bail?

Georgia State went 2 - 10 and just beat an SEC Team in their coaches 3rd year. All coaches deserve a 3rd year period. After that 3rd year you make a decision to cut him or keep him.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I turned the game off after the second play......

really stinks i cant share the fun tradition of saturdays spent watching Vols play football with my family.

Oh well. ill always be a fan....but if it's the new normal. I guess we'll just go watch ETSU, or, go hike, play outdoors. We'll have fun no matter what, but, i certainly wont waste a minute on that trash.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

Well guys and girls, it has been a long time since I posted here. I posted shortly after my father died in November. Since that time I have also lost my stepfather and my dog. What a crazy 10 months it has been. Perspective has been brought to my life and I rarely read or post here anymore. After watching yesterdays game, I decided to. As much as I want our team to be great again, it is still only a game and one that I will enjoy each week with my family and friends regardless of the outcome. I am way less emotional about the outcome of Tennessee games. Coach Pruitt needs to go young with this team and take the lumps much like the coach at Ga State did last year. Although it pains me to say this, the QB position is the one of greatest need in this department. I think very highly of JG as a man. Unfortunately, when the lights come on, he's several steps too slow. Not sure if its related to confidence or reading a defense. Probably both. He fires balls too hard at receivers that are close. He throws balls consistently behind his playmakers. He holds the ball way too long. He holds the ball too long. HE HOLDS THE BALL TOO LONG. There were times the young line gave him a clean pocket for 5 seconds and he still took sacks. His inability to lead an efficient offense will cause our defense to look worse than it is. We have playmakers all over the field. On the first play from scrimmage, Callaway was wide open at the top of the screen and would've been 6. Outside of 1 sack, they were his fault. He is nowhere near as athletic as I thought he'd be and loses his footing in the pocket. He never maximizes his scrambles and even looks slow to me. I would rather see our young qb's get reps if we're going to take L's. Anyway, I hope all are well. Be discouraged but not broken Vols. We'll win a game or two we shouldn't.

 

[SoilVol]

I’m not sure that’s the answer either unless they let Chaney do whatever he wants on offense. After watching yesterday it was apparent that Chaney has been handcuffed. He’s always been a pass the ball vertically down the field first guy to set up the run. And, that’s certainly NOT what happened yesterday.

Receivers were running those routes. JG always dished short. He never threw a guy open.

Literally if any other QB with balls looked down the field and threw it, that would have happened.

 

[VolGee4]

Realistic expectations at this point?

I was a 6 - 6 guy after watching the spring game providing they could beat Vanderbilt otherwise 5-7.

Yesterday, was painful and I’m still not out on Pruitt but the three things that concern me the most are

1. The fiery competitor that we saw from Pruitt who worked tirelessly to get better seems gone. Almost like the losing beat it out of him last season.

2. I expected Chaney to call a better game, in that the game plan was just like that of last season with Helton. No vertical passing game down the field to set up the run. Reminds me of Fulmer days without Cut as his OC. It’s just very predictable on offense, same as last season and that’s obviously what Pruitt wants.

3. Vols can’t block, Defense can’t pressure the QB into mistakes, and we have a QB that made turnovers and still can’t make plays when we need him to.

That being said this can be improved.

1. Pruitt needs to stay completely away from the offense and game planning. If Chaney wants to run a fast paced no huddle, then Pruitt should let him. We know Chaney can coach offense. If we’re going to lose, I’d rather do it by firing all the bullets in my gun and for this team that means throwing down field to make explosive plays with the WR’s.

2. Pruitt needs to find himself, and get back the guy that loathes to lose. Get involved with the defense and if needed call the plays again because we know he can do that.

3. And, most importantly, Pruitt needs to have open competition for every position including QB this week in practice and those that want to play and be Tennessee Volunteers and give effort and desire should start.

6-6 and a bowl may still be possible but they have to improve dramatically each and every game.

I am going to venture to say that the lack of a vertical passing game has to do with the OL and QB. I criticized Helton last year because he called slow developing passes with a QB who has no awareness. Chaney knows this and is trying to scheme it. The OL did block better. But I’m not sure JG can process much anyway. He missed several reads and can’t seem to figure out where a blitz is coming. That’s his job. Pretty sure the wheel route was open on his sack fumble, and it was right where the blitz came from.

Chaney is great at scheming the TE and sure enough he got DWA wide open on a long play. I was confused at some running calls but not always sure who actually makes the call. Tim Jordan needs to only be on the field during mop up time.

 

[nashvol1]

Writing is on the wall as it was for the other two we let linger.

We are not GA State or maybe we are...

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Here’s the real problem I see, aside from the fact that was the worse loss in history of the university:

recruiting under Pruitt has not been very good under since he was hired. There have been a handful of elite level players and a last year’s class was fine on the whole - but about on par with what Dooley was doing here and less impressive than what Butch, Kiffin and Fulmer were able to do.

Anyway, we’ve all been in agreement that we needed a big step forward to kickstart recruiting. 8 or 9 wins would have done a ton for perception. That’s out the window. We might get to 6 wins. 7 if literally everything went right from here out. (It won’t.)

That type of season - the one that is now a best case scenario - is not a fireable offense. But it doesn’t allow for this recruiting class to flourish. So next year we go into a make or break season for the entire coaching staff - with a tougher schedule - with three very average (by Tennessee standards) recruiting classes.

And this is the best case scenario!

Huh?

 

[98nostalgia]

Exact

That’s disconcerting. It sure looked like they didn’t prep for this team at all. But still... you should accidentally beat them.

Exactly. Prepared or not you win this game on talent alone. Ga State mockingly sang rocky top in Neyland Stadium. I literally dont care anymore. I'm done. They win...great. They lose...Who cares. I'm tired of being this emotionally invested in a program that for whatever reason cannot get out of its own way to be a good team. I wish we could still blame Butch and or the Haslam's but we cant. Watching the sideline during the game said it all. They (players and coaches) didn't seem to care. Why should we?

 

[volatil]

really stinks i cant share the fun tradition of saturdays spent watching Vols play football with my family.

Oh well. ill always be a fan....but if it's the new normal. I guess we'll just go watch ETSU, or, go hike, play outdoors. We'll have fun no matter what, but, i certainly wont waste a minute on that trash.

I live beside Sewanee’s campus. Might start hanging out with Majors as he goes to a few of those games.

 

[ChattaTNVol]

I feel like the only way to fix things is to have everything come full circle. Fulmer back at coach. Just like Kansas State had to do.

I’ve been thinking about the number of VIP types that have probably been blowing up Fulmer’s phone last night and today. Does Fulmer even try to defend Pruitt at this point? I’m serious. What can he say? I mean we can definitely pick on the players but presumably they’re not in charge and they’re not the ones earning millions. What does Fulmer say to one of the new board members or all of them? I seriously doubt they're open to excuses for yesterday. jmo.

 

[nashvol1]

If we could get Leach, sure. This was in response to brining some level of leadership stability which we clearly don’t have currently.

 

[BigOrangeFanatic]

I don’t think so. The writing is on the wall - he won’t be successful here - but you have to let him prove it.

In your second year,, when you're supposed to be vastly improved as a team and lose to a team that won 2 games last year and has only had a program for 10 years is enough to prove the point you stated above. Theres no turning this ship around and he proved it yesterday.

 

[gunner]

I am going to venture to say that the lack of a vertical passing game has to do with the OL and QB. I criticized Helton last year because he called slow developing passes with a QB who has no awareness. Chaney knows this and is trying to scheme it. The OL did block better. But I’m not sure JG can process much anyway. He missed several reads and can’t seem to figure out where a blitz is coming. That’s his job. Pretty sure the wheel route was open on his sack fumble, and it was right where the blitz came from.

Chaney is great at scheming the TE and sure enough he got DWA wide open on a long play. I was confused at some running calls but not always sure who actually makes the call. Tim Jordan needs to only be on the field during mop up time.

Why were we running right before halftime? They should have immediately come out and gone shotgun and no huddle. That’s what Chaney did last year at Georgia. But, that’s not what they did yesterday.

 

[Kingston Vol]

I don’t say this to dispute that a QB change needs to be made, but JG is night and day better than Shrout and Maurer in every aspect of the game. There is such a disparity that the coaches have never even considered an alternative.

Like I said, I understand wanting to make a change and I would probably try it too. But it’s not going to work either.

 

[nashvol1]

Does anyone else feel worse this morning than last night? Usually after a loss, I feel better the next day. Not the same for this one, feels worse this morning.

 

[Catbone]

Does anyone else feel worse this morning than last night? Usually after a loss, I feel better the next day. Not the same for this one, feels worse this morning.

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