Aoc says electoral college racist

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n_huffhines said:
This would be valid thought if all whites were racist, but nobody thinks that. What does seem to be true is that areas that are more white are less inclined to care about racial justice. For example, they don't care if the war on drugs is destroying inner-city America. It's not their problem. So while blacks were cursing Ronald Reagan's name, white middle America couldn't have cared less.

Anecdotally, I saw with my own eyes that heterogeneously white places are far more likely to be racist. I moved from east TN to southern Utah, and I was blown away by the stuff people would say. You would sometimes hear kids saying openly racist stuff in the classroom, and I'm not talking 50 years ago, I was class of 2000. The idea that racism exists is more of a problem in TN because the races have to live together, but that's not the case in small town Utah, where people actually happen to be more racist.
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It's not just heterogeneously white places that have a problem with endemic racism. Any place with an overwhelming majority of one race tends to be racist towards others.
 
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n_huffhines said:
This would be valid thought if all whites were racist, but nobody thinks that. What does seem to be true is that areas that are more white are less inclined to care about racial justice. For example, they don't care if the war on drugs is destroying inner-city America. It's not their problem. So while blacks were cursing Ronald Reagan's name, white middle America couldn't have cared less.

Anecdotally, I saw with my own eyes that heterogeneously white places are far more likely to be racist. I moved from east TN to southern Utah, and I was blown away by the stuff people would say. You would sometimes hear kids saying openly racist stuff in the classroom, and I'm not talking 50 years ago, I was class of 2000. The idea that racism exists is more of a problem in TN because the races have to live together, but that's not the case in small town Utah, where people actually happen to be more racist.
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I would imagine that in most areas that are less diverse that racism is more prevalent. Still doesn't mean that the electoral college voting method is inherently more "racist".
 
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evillawyer said:
It's not the intention of the electoral college to be racist. But it does have a disparate impact on people of color because they tend to live in more densely populated urban areas that are adversely affected by the electoral college. A vote in Wyoming (predominately white electorate) effectively counts more than a vote in California (more diverse state). It's simple math guys. I know you don't like that she's right, but she is.
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You've officially lost your damn mind.
 
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jp1 said:
I would imagine that in most areas that are less diverse that racism is more prevalent. Still doesn't mean that the electoral college voting method is inherently more "racist".
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But nobody said that it's more racist. She said it results in racial injustice.

Again, I turn to my example of the war on drugs and the Reagan era. There are few things as racially unjust as the war on drugs. For the large majority of people that have supported the war on drugs, it wasn't because they were "racist". But the fact that it created racial injustice either didn't matter to them, or they were in a bubble where they could be comfortably ignorant about the result.

In that sense, the EC does inherently make us more likely to have racially unjust results.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I would frame it differently. Republicans are getting slaughtered on race issues and are seeking to minimize the impact of the word.
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Why would you change what Rs are telling you to be true instead of changing the strategy of overusing the word ? Do you believe the word is overused or no ?
 
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n_huffhines said:
But nobody said that it's more racist. She said it results in racial injustice.

Again, I turn to my example of the war on drugs and the Reagan era. There are few things as racially unjust as the war on drugs. For the large majority of people that have supported the war on drugs, it wasn't because they were "racist". But the fact that it created racial injustice either didn't matter to them, or they were in a bubble where they could be comfortably ignorant about the result.

In that sense, the EC does inherently make us more likely to have racially unjust results.
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I fully realize that no one was saying it was more racist. However, what is the alternative to the electoral college vote? Hence my line of questioning.
 
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jp1 said:
I fully realize that no one was saying it was more racist. However, what is the alternative to the electoral college vote? Hence my line of questioning.
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Yeah, IDK. Flaws in every system. What I don't get is why people who think democracy is good think that overrepresentation/underrepresentation of certain states is an OK result and that all or nothing states are good, either. I personally don't have a problem with the former*, but the latter seems really dumb. If a large state votes overwhelmingly for candidate A and candidate B wins a bunch of small states by tiny margins, candidate B is at a huge advantage, but it's a very poor representation of who Americans favor.

*at least with the way states were originally intended to be empowered during the founding
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I would frame it differently. Republicans are getting slaughtered on race issues and are seeking to minimize the impact of the word.
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All of you all look stupid in here making c9mments like this. Calling the electoral college racist is slaughtering Republicans? Calling voter ID racist is slaughtering Republicans?
Give me a ***** break.


Russia didn't work. Now Soros has everyone going through the "What can accuse him of now" talking points and you shills are lapping it up like a puppy on it's moms teet.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Did you think Trump calling out EC on Baltimore was racist ?
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I sure find it interesting that he doesn't call out white areas of the country represented by white congressmen with larger problems than Baltimore. I am undecided whether Trump is bigoted or just a Trump Supremacist.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I sure find it interesting that he doesn't call out white areas of the country represented by white congressmen with larger problems than Baltimore. I am undecided whether Trump is bigoted or just a Trump Supremacist.
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Didn’t he call out Pelosi?
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
All of you all look stupid in here making c9mments like this. Calling the electoral college racist is slaughtering Republicans? Calling voter ID racist is slaughtering Republicans?
Give me a ***** break.


Russia didn't work. Now Soros has everyone going through the "What can accuse him of now" talking points and you shills are lapping it up like a puppy on it's moms teet.
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Creating arguments out of thin air again? I don't know what you are talking about with your EC and Voter ID stuff.


Most people don't think Trump is doing very well when it comes to improving race relations and attacking racisim.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I read your post and my first thought was, dammit. :D:D
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To be perfectly honest , I don’t try to set you up or Zep for that matter , I find that both of you are pretty leveled headed . Zep gets a little carried away with Pete but I like his optimism .
 
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MG1968 said:
It's not just heterogeneously white places that have a problem with endemic racism. Any place with an overwhelming majority of one race tends to be racist towards others.
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So Cali is extremely racist against whites.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Yeah, IDK. Flaws in every system. What I don't get is why people who think democracy is good think that overrepresentation/underrepresentation of certain states is an OK result and that all or nothing states are good, either. I personally don't have a problem with the former*, but the latter seems really dumb. If a large state votes overwhelmingly for candidate A and candidate B wins a bunch of small states by tiny margins, candidate B is at a huge advantage, but it's a very poor representation of who Americans favor.

*at least with the way states were originally intended to be empowered during the founding
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It’s not just about states it’s about a handful of cities being able to dictate how an entire country is governed. The states in which those cities reside are given greater influence over elections.
 
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C-south said:
It’s not just about states it’s about a handful of cities being able to dictate how an entire country is governed. The states in which those cities reside are given greater influence over elections.
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Is it unreasonable to expect places where more people reside to have more influence on who governs them?
 
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