Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[VolGee4]

Just don't say someone or something on here offends you. I have zero time for that.

I have put one person on ignore in 8 years, and it was a handle that I had barely seen who was clearly a troll. I am a criminal defense attorney. I don’t get offended easily. I take crap every week.

I just caution people who say “this is a message board where people can be different than what they are in real life.” That can bite you.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I have put one person on ignore in 8 years, and it was a handle that I had barely seen who was clearly a troll. I am a criminal defense attorney. I don’t get offended easily. I take crap every week.

I just caution people who say “this is a message board where people can be different than what they are in real life.” That can bite you.

You need on that @Big Gucci Sosa diet if it's just a weekly thing man. Twice a day or three times = better colon health, consult a WebMD graduate ok?

I'm honestly no different here than in person. I like to pick at people, I'm sarcastic, rarely offended and pretty much a straight shooter. You do something to piss me off I'm the guy that will say "hey that pissed me off, here's why..." some people read more into my sarcasm/picking in text I've noticed...I could blue font more, but I'm lazy.

I'm what you'd call a dickhead I suppose...

 

[LA Vol]

yep. i have thought this 2009, 2012, 2014, 15, and 16.

and we've yet to really make a mark that lasts. and we've had more than our fair share of opportunities to do so.

this year provides another set of those opportunities, and at some point......don't we finally do something, good, that we're not supposed to? give folks a reason to raise an eyebrow?

That's true. UT teams have self-destructed many times under multiple coaches. It's been step forward, fall back for a decade, including last year with the Auburn road win, followed by Mizzou and Vandy blowouts. So here we are again, with the opportunity to make the leap in a pivotal year.

 

[jakez4ut]

Best we can do is continue to sign 25 every year. That means continuing to weed out and replace players to upgrade the roster. We did a lot of that this year and we'll see even more transfers and retirements after the season. Every year, the depth quality will go up and in a few years, we won't have to sign 25.

sounds like Clemson.

and i'm fine with that. they signed 14 kids in 2017.....#16 in the country. 2014 only 19? 17 last year?

fit/culture.....and aside from this year's class, they've not bee dominating the rankings....they've been really, really solid, and probablyl a lot better than their rankings suggest, given the quality/quantity ratio.......

 

[UTSuave’]

If you needed a good chuckle

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/t...e-gundy-volunteers-job-three-different-times/

 

[Sleegro]

Chicks dig the long snap.

Long snaps, longer odds: Riley Lovingood's road from church...

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

That's true. UT teams have self-destructed many times under multiple coaches. It's been step forward, fall back for a decade, including last year with the Auburn road win, followed by Mizzou and Vandy blowouts. So here we are again, with the opportunity to make the leap in a pivotal year.

What stinks is that we probably don't have the horses yet to make that leap. It is indeed a pivotal year, that is just how it is, but the odds are stacked against us. We have almost no margin for injury at all (losing Gooden already just makes it even worse), or bad bounce type of things to happen this season in order to make a leap forward.

It is what it is..

 

[jakez4ut]

What stinks is that we probably don't have the horses yet to make that leap. It is indeed a pivotal year, that is just how it is, but the odds are stacked against us. We have almost no margin for injury at all (losing Gooden already just makes it even worse), or bad bounce type of things to happen this season in order to make a leap forward.

It is what it is..

we didn't have the horses in 2013 to beat UGA. or OU in 15. or Bama, FL. yet there we were in position to win all those games.

we'll be in a position to do the same again. maybe as soon as this year.

when we are.......we need to find a way to win.

and like @LA Vol said, if we do, don't then go crap the bed in November, like we did last year and in 2016.

 

[JAllen18]

Best we can do is continue to sign 25 every year. That means continuing to weed out and replace players to upgrade the roster. We did a lot of that this year and we'll see even more transfers and retirements after the season. Every year, the depth quality will go up and in a few years, we won't have to sign 25.

Coach Fulmer is on it too, holding the staff accountable. He knows the importance of great recruiting.

 

[RiotVol]

If you needed a good chuckle

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/t...e-gundy-volunteers-job-three-different-times/

I'm glad we got Pruitt.

 

[LA Vol]

What stinks is that we probably don't have the horses yet to make that leap. It is indeed a pivotal year, that is just how it is, but the odds are stacked against us. We have almost no margin for injury at all (losing Gooden already just makes it even worse), or bad bounce type of things to happen this season in order to make a leap forward.

It is what it is..

I think 7 wins, competitive progress and strong coaching would be enough for most of the recruits we want. We'd probably have to win 8-9 games to land some of the longshots. But 7 plus a bowl win and no embarrassing blowouts would have most people feeling pretty good about where the program is heading.

The lines are where players have to step up. It was good to see Chaney get vocal yesterday. We have to have improvement on the OL. But you're right-- injuries and bad bounces would hurt.

 

[rocktopper16]

Derrick Smith, Safety from Miami entered his name into the transfer portal.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Butch Jones, Intern and Nick Sabans Coffee Fetcher from Alabama entered his name into the dumbazz portal.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Honestly though nothing should prevent us from being a top 6-8 team in the SEC. I feel like there's only 4 or so teams that truly have more talent on roster, and 3 of them are in the West. (Bama, Georgia, A&M, LSU)

I don't think Florida is really there, previous coach wasn't killing it with his recruiting and Mullen's best class has imploded already. Long as CJP keeps bringing in top 15 classes, his staff already seems to have a better eye for finding the real SEC caliber guys and not just chasing STARS/rankings. So as long as they can out coach/develop then the climb should be a steady/solid one moving forward.

5-7
7-5
7 or 8 wins (could be breaking in NEW QB here)
8 to 10 wins (year 4 will be that year when we'll know if he's got it or not...should be able to hit the double digits with a bowl game in this season imo)

 

[nicksjuzunk]

I have put one person on ignore in 8 years, and it was a handle that I had barely seen who was clearly a troll. I am a criminal defense attorney. I don’t get offended easily. I take crap every week.

I just caution people who say “this is a message board where people can be different than what they are in real life.” That can bite you.

Prosecutor: “Well as a matter of fact, @VolGee4 said on Volnation...”

VolGee4:”.

 

[jakez4ut]

I think 7 wins, competitive progress and strong coaching would be enough for most of the recruits we want. We'd probably have to win 8-9 games to land some of the longshots. But 7 plus a bowl win and no embarrassing blowouts would have most people feeling pretty good about where the program is heading.

The lines are where players have to step up. It was good to see Chaney get vocal yesterday. We have to have improvement on the OL. But you're right-- injuries and bad bounces would hurt.

agree.

i just want us to be in a position again to win one of those big games and see what happens. i think that's one of the primary ways you'll be able to tell if this program has a different mindset about itself. or if it's the same old same old, and being close is good enough.

i'm not ready to start bashign the staff or anything......but why not us? go make the game saving intereception and pull an upset. make the gw kick at the end for the upset. get the first down to ice the game.

someone make a play when it matters. no pig howard fumble out of the endzone. no 6" wide right kick at the buzzer in thw swamp. no STerling sheppard walk in TD for the win. no game losing intercepiton in OT to lose @ college station..no mount cody blocked FG to seal the win in Tuscaloosa. don't give up a hail mary TD w/10 seconds on the clock @ UGA.

no ridiculous personnel penalties to end the game against LSU, UNC or FL lol.

i mean................................SERIOUSLY!!!

lol.

 

[Chuckie]

In the name of being PC and non-offensive, I make a motion that we refrain from use of the term which has wrought upon us such divisiveness, and in its stead use a less provocative acronym: DEM-RO (Dangling End of the Male Reproductive Organ).

 

[GoBigOrangeVols]

I was more encouraged from Pruitt's press conf. yesterday than from pretty much anything since the Kentucky game last year. My take from it was that we've gone from an untalented team that didn't know how to do anything (last year), to a fairly talented team that is learning how to do things the right way (this year). Next season, my prediction is that we have a very talented team that knows how to do some things the right way, most of the time. And by 2021, we'll have an extremely talented team that does things the right way all of the time.

 

[UTSuave’]

I'm glad we got Pruitt.

Side note!..long live the mullet

 

[Smokeytom]

The whole “argument from recruiting” for why a school will never “get back” is absolutely worthless. Once you follow recruiting long enough you see how the services primarily follow the top teams and coaches and bump up the players they recruit. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s actually a humble business model. It’s an admission that they don’t know more than the Nicks and Dabos of the world.

The problem is it makes it where a new coach has to win big and prove himself before his evaluations will be respected, and by the time he’s winning everybody is now crediting his success on the field for his success in recruiting. It’s all one big mirage. One giant, illogical feedback loop.

Good news for us - Pruitt is such an alpha male that he doesn’t give a damn what the idiot services have to say. He trusts his own evaluations and the early signs are that he knows what he’s doing. His recruits will be getting the rating bumps soon enough. I guarantee it.

 

[LA Vol]

agree.

i just want us to be in a position again to win one of those big games and see what happens. i think that's one of the primary ways you'll be able to tell if this program has a different mindset about itself. or if it's the same old same old, and being close is good enough.

i'm not ready to start bashign the staff or anything......but why not us? go make the game saving intereception and pull an upset. make the gw kick at the end for the upset. get the first down to ice the game.

someone make a play when it matters. no pig howard fumble out of the endzone. no 6" wide right kick at the buzzer in thw swamp. no STerling sheppard walk in TD for the win. no game losing intercepiton in OT to lose @ college station..no mount cody blocked FG to seal the win in Tuscaloosa. don't give up a hail mary TD w/10 seconds on the clock @ UGA.

no ridiculous personnel penalties to end the game against LSU, UNC or FL lol.

i mean................................SERIOUSLY!!!

lol.

Has to be as close to a statistical impossibility as you can get. UT has been historically unlucky. ATP, some of our misfortune must be mental. The "Here we go..." syndrome, a Tennessee fan's personal version of PTSD.

 

[chargervol]

Not getting in the argument but here's something I didn't see brought up and I'm just wondering if anyone else does this.

My level of offense taken depends on if it's just one situation or an overall comment.

Someone telling me "don't be an ass" in a debate is different to me than them telling someone else "that guy's an ass". I mean we all can be at times but that's not the same as someone saying you are, period. Right?

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

you are all ASSES. What did I miss? Why are we mad today?

 

[RiotVol]

Has to be as close to a statistical impossibility as you can get. UT has been historically unlucky. ATP, some of our misfortune must be mental. The "Here we go..." syndrome, a Tennessee fan's personal version of PTSD.

Honestly, some of these are luck. Some of these are just the result of bad coaching.

 

[chargervol]

you are all ASSES. What did I miss? Why are we mad today?

Still working on getting mad enough, figure out why later. Only so many hours in the day.