Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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Smokeytom said:
And actually brother, your #3 is dismissible because THIS team is 0-0. 2018 Vols are not the 2019 Vols. Their record last year is not attached to them in any way. We know absolutely nothing about this team (other than the silliness of your 1,2,4) until they step on the field.
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Completely accurate. Way more so when talking 2nd year. Not only is it possible for any team to have a decent jump from 1 year to the next, it's common for the 2nd year coaches/teams.
 
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gunner said:
Facts do matter.

Just because you weigh over 300 pounds, it doesn’t mean you can block a starting SEC DT.
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True, it doesn't, but it gives you better odds of doing so.

Our odds are improving and that is part reason for optimism. Our schedule is easier, there's another. Year 2 of same systems - there's another. I just think the list of reasons for optimism outweigh the pull of expecting the same. Not saying we'll shock the world - but if we win 7 or 8 and are competitive in losses, I think that is the bar most are hoping to see achieved.
 
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gunner said:
Yes, we know several things with 100 percent certainty.

1. Pruitt is the Head Coach.
2. The Vols are a member of the SECE.
3. The Vols are coming of a 5-7 season and 2-6 in the SEC.
4. The Vols are scheduled to play 12 games this season. These we know for certain.

These are beliefs, assumptions and inferences and NOT facts.

1. The Vols will be better this season because of OC Chaney.
2. The Vols will win more games this season because they look better getting off the bus and in drills.
3. The Vols will win more games this season because they are a year older.
4. The Vols will win more games this season because of the weaker schedule.
5. The Vols have more 300 plus linemen this season than last so they will win more games this season.

I could go on but I won’t. The Vols certainly could be better this season but they will need to prove it on the field by beating teams that they have been beating.
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Nothing about the future of UT football is certain, including losses.
 
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govols24 said:
I wish there was a rule in college football that mandated that the media gets to see all of practice. You could put rules around when they’re allowed to video and maybe not allow them to comment on formations. It sucks that we only hear about 10 minutes of practice a day.
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It would not matter. Most of them know nothing about football. They do not know Xs and Os.
 
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Vols4us said:
8-4

Reasons:
1) Second year in a strong S&C program.
2) Chaney - including his scheme that works with this roster and against SEC opponents.
3) Ansley - is in CJP's head and will have the D executing their scheme.
4) CJP - he can now fully be a HC. He put out fires all last season relating to the poor roster situation, S&C, scheme implementation, poor play calling on O, etc. That stops with two quality OC's.
5) Freshmen - there are a handful of true and RS freshmen who are very capable of having quality seasons. Even more than proved themselves last season. If they happen to come through at OT, DL, LB, and DB - well - look out, it may get very interesting.
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To me it's pretty simple, it all depends on the DL. I guess that's not really very simple.

Realistically, I think the floor is 5 wins and the ceiling is 10.

If the DL is as bad as some fear, then we're at 5 or 6. If the DL is as good as I expect the rest of the defense to be, then we're looking at 10.

Of course I expect it to be somewhere between those 2 extremes. I'm going with 8, not counting the bowl game.
 
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volatil said:
Pruitt took the team to church today.


I’m now at 9-3
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Is there a scripture in the Bible that says God or Jesus loves Cornbread? If so TN will go 15-0. I know there isnt one that says they love Skoal. Write that down. Lol
 
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gunner said:
No, but imho it’s a bit optimistic. Finding 7 wins won’t be easy. But, it could happen.
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So I'm guessing your wins are 3 cupcakes, byu, and uk?

What % chance do you give us to beat each of these teams:
Vandy -
Ms St -
USC -
Mizzou -
UF -
 
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gunner said:
Those are reasons for your optimism based on nothing more than opinions and assumptions.

Logic is based on clear reasoning rather than opinions or assumptions.

Logic is based on wins and losses.

Logic dictates that since Alabama, Georgia, Florida, SC, Mizzou, and Vanderbilt have multiple game winning streaks over the Vols that they will win again this season. Not because the Vols aren’t making progress but rather because their programs are currently in a better spot than UT’s.

It’s logic to think that Miss State will beat the Vols this season because they have been a better program in recent years.

UT rarely loses to Kentucky so it’s logic to believe that UT will beat them again this season.

That’s not going to change until it’s proved or disproved on the football field.

Can the Vols overcome some of these programs this year based upon the progress they have made this off season? We are all hoping they do.

That’s the reason they play the games and we watch them.
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That isn’t logic. That is a severely flawed post. Just because a quarter lands on heads 3 straight times doesn’t mean it will do so on the 4th flip. And that’s just a flip of a coin and doesn’t even factor in variables such as coaches, players, schedules, and improvements.
 
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Smokeytom said:
Lol at your first 1 and 2 and 4.

And while we do know for certain what our record was last year, you cannot use that to deduce how we will fair this year.

As far as your second list, those are all fair points for an inductive argument. I will go further and say that all those points provide pretty solid support for a 2 win improvement this season.
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Why?? It would certainly be relevant if they were 12-0 last season and returned most of the starters.

If it’s relevant for a 12-0 team it’s certainly relevant that they were 5-7 last season.

Second list is just merely opinions not facts.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I wear flip flops every day of my life and I wear jerseys on game days!
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I consider you to be a pretty level headed dude. I mean, you could kick puppies for all i know.


¯\_(ツ)_/¯ WHy is this even a thing? i dont think less of fannypacks or new balance with tune socks at the beach.

Every male friend or family member i have wears sandals. Doctors, lawyers, computer programmers, engineers, trust fund kids.

Its like with anything, look in the mirror then all around. It may not be the other person whos behaviour is odd.
 
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Volsdeep4 said:
Thank you Internet! This is why Ron Swanson hates you : funny
@Ron Swanson
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