Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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AngryButchJones said:
Be careful, I suggested that several coaches could be gone after this year because of this same reason (and others) and got blasted for it for no reason.
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But why do it? Start a narrative that there are issues when there is zero evidence of trouble? There may well be turnover...after the season...but then again they may win the NC and all get contracts for life. It just seems counter-productive to speculate about such things a few days before fall camp.

Let’s go enjoy some Vol ball, and leave the coaching changes until there actually are some. Particularly when you may be discussing that one position coach that a prized recruit has the key relationship with.
 
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AngryButchJones said:
Also, I didn't read AV's comments as him saying there would be internal issues such as discord or drama or anything like that if UT doesn't achieve their goals. I read it more Pruitt would make the necessary changes to make sure goals are met in the future, much like he did this past offseason.
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I read it as we're gonna win a bunch of games.. the end.

Trouble has never had a problem finding us so I'm not going out looking for any.
 
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Atlanta VOL said:
Anything less than 8 wins this year will be a major disappointment IMO. I do believe 7 or 8 wins is totally realistic. Will be trouble internally if this goal isn’t reached that I can assure you.
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Good. Glad Fulmer and Pruitt are in charge. They expect to win and in year 2 we should see substantial improvement in the W column.
 
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AngryButchJones said:
Also, I didn't read AV's comments as him saying there would be internal issues such as discord or drama or anything like that if UT doesn't achieve their goals. I read it more Pruitt would make the necessary changes to make sure goals are met in the future, much like he did this past offseason.
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This. Too many Bruin takes stretching words.
 
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SSVol said:
But why do it? Start a narrative that there are issues when there is zero evidence of trouble? There may well be turnover...after the season...but then again they may win the NC and all get contracts for life. It just seems counter-productive to speculate about such things a few days before fall camp.

Let’s go enjoy some Vol ball, and leave the coaching changes until there actually are some. Particularly when you may be discussing that one position coach that a prized recruit has the key relationship with.
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People who make a living covering the program are apparently reporting that there is trouble. Only one I've read was Basilio, but it sounds like others are reporting the same based on the posts on this site. This fan base is like a tanker full of nitro driving I20 from Birmingham to Atlanta. Every time we hit one of those seams between the concrete slabs might be a mini Hiroshima. Just how it's gonna be until we start winning again.
 
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VOLATNES said:
When does fall practice start? It’s probably listed in FF, but I don’t want to go over there and get stuck in the mud.
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But they have a new thread up paying homage to the Gator posters.
If you get bored honoring their team and coach, you now have the option to honor their fans.
 
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chargervol said:
But they have a new thread up paying homage to the Gator posters.
If you get bored honoring their team and coach, you now have the option to honor their fans.
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
People who make a living covering the program are apparently reporting that there is trouble. Only one I've read was Basilio, but it sounds like others are reporting the same based on the posts on this site. This fan base is like a tanker full of nitro driving I20 from Birmingham to Atlanta. Every time we hit one of those seams between the concrete slabs might be a mini Hiroshima. Just how it's gonna be until we start winning again.
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lol. it's funny, cause it's true. that stretch of hwy sucks.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
People who make a living covering the program are apparently reporting that there is trouble. Only one I've read was Basilio, but it sounds like others are reporting the same based on the posts on this site. This fan base is like a tanker full of nitro driving I20 from Birmingham to Atlanta. Every time we hit one of those seams between the concrete slabs might be a mini Hiroshima. Just how it's gonna be until we start winning again.
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I don't follow Basilio, but it seems like he's happiest when raking muck. That said, if there is dissatisfaction with some position coaches, we should really be viewing that as a positive. It's clear that Fulmer isn't gonna accept crap, and clear that Pruitt takes that seriously...as evidenced by the Helton to Chaney upgrade.

But dang, this fan base is intent on getting on top of the nitro-laden semi and trying to time their sledge hammer strikes to the tank with the seams in the concrete.
 
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SSVol said:
I don't follow Basilio, but it seems like he's happiest when raking muck. That said, if there is dissatisfaction with some position coaches, we should really be viewing that as a positive. It's clear that Fulmer isn't gonna accept crap, and clear that Pruitt takes that seriously...as evidenced by the Helton to Chaney upgrade.

But dang, this fan base is intent on getting on top of the nitro-laden semi and trying to time their sledge hammer strikes to the tank with the seams in the concrete.
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lol. agree about basillo. and aside from that post in this thread, i've not heard or read anything about any discontent or unpleasantness on the staff. most of what i've seen/read has been the exact opposite.

are there expectations? yeah.
are they held accountable? sure seems like it.
will they make a change if it makes the program better? from what we've seen so far, yes, they will.

none of that means there is any trouble behind the scenes. doesn't mean there's not either.

i do think the fact there's a couple coaches that haven't had contracts renewed at least opens the door for the possiblity. but at the end of the day, i think you go back to your first statement. Basillo in the muck.
 
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vol2002 said:
Ha ha - yeah I agree. This is why the Tennessee job is so unattractive right now. You are basically on the hot seat from Day 1, and every major recruit in America is being told that by opposing coaches. So recruiting lulls relative to expectations. Then you gotta achieve defined win totals early with a subpar roster against a schedule that always includes a few national title contenders... all in, your program is probably third best in the division, probably sixth or seventh best in the conference - but the expectations match those at the top... it just chews coaches up and spits them out. Just a tough tough gig.

I read posts like that and my mind heads down a rabbit hole.... another coaching search where our boosters talk big but we wind up with our 10th choice, and then another 3-4 year rebuild... sheesh, count me out if that’s where this is headed.

Ah, Tennessee football. Where we all go to escape life’s troubles...!

I prefer to stay on the sunny side! Let’s get moving to fall practice. 😎
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Except that entire narrative is false. Dooley got fired for having 3 straight losing seasons. Jones got fired for going winless in conference in year 5. Neither was fired for failing to achieve an unreasonable win total early in their tenure.

Fulmer won 60% of his games over his last 4 years and got canned. Richt and Miles won 70%+ of their games over their last 4 years and got fired. If anything, UT has been more patient with their coaches then others in conference.

Lack of patience from UT isn't the problem. Lack of quality coaching has been the issue. Pruitt is going to get a fair chance to turn this thing around.
 
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