Possible HC replacement (NEW)

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jmva1 said:
Gary Patterson- its going to be nearly impossible to pry him out of the hands of boise st.... he just signed 5 year contract extension
Steve Sarkisian- okay im fine with him
Lane Kiffin- alright, but will probably try to stay on NFL level as a QB coach/offensive coordinator
Brian Kelly- defense minded
Brian Billick- probably the most defensive minded coach in the country besides if he wanted to stay in coaching he would've stayed in the NFL as defensive coordinator.
Jim Harbaugh- Head coach of a mediocre stanford team... they had one good win against USC thats it....there record for the season was 4-8
Brent Venables- we don't need another defensive coordinator on our staff
Mark Dantonio- again, provides nothing for our offense
Todd Graham- alright choice... has a great offense but before he was a head coach his specialty was defense
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Brian Billick was the offensive coordinator for the team that held the NFL record for points scored in a season until the Patriots broke it last season. Also, if you think Brian Kelly is "defensive minded" and Gary Patterson is the coach at Boise State, it's probaly not worth my time to continue this debate.
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#28
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How about Bronco Mendenhall? He has done a great job in turning BYU around. I think he wouldn't mind getting a shot at Metro Meyer. UT-Florida is as a heated rivilary as BYU-Utah is.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Brian Billick was the offensive coordinator for the team that held the NFL record fo points scored in a season until the Patriots broke it last season. Also, if you think Brian Kelly is "defensive minded" and Gary Patterson is the coach at Boise State, it's probaly not worth my time to continue this debate.
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sorry i was talking about peterson not patterson..... and brian billick was coach a team that dominated on offense and had practically no offense and won the superbowl. he's never had a good offense, the defense carried him (specifically ray lewis)
 
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jmva1 said:
sorry i was talking about peterson not patterson..... and brian billick was coach a team that dominated on offense and had practically no offense and won the superbowl. he's never had a good offense, the defense carried him (specifically ray lewis)
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Brian billick was minnesota's offensive coordinator who broke all those records. Billick is a very good offensive coordinator . Head coach is up for debate.
 
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Cartervol said:
Brian billick was minnesota's offensive coordinator who broke all those records. Billick is a very good offensive coordinator . Head coach is up for debate.
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so you really think brian billick, whos 54, is going to make a comeback to coaching to coach one of the worst college offenses in the country as an OC?
 
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jmva1 said:
so you really think brian billick, whos 54, is going to make a comeback to coaching to coach one of the worst college offenses in the country as an OC?
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Nope i don't. He wouldn't just be the oc, he'd be the head coach. Hat is a very knowledgable guy. I was trying to tell you why he said what he said. Billick's not coming here anyway, so the point is moot. But yeah the guy is a excellent OC.
 
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1. Bronco Mendenhall
2. Chris Peterson
3. Lane Kiffin
4. Brian Kelly
5. Jim Levitz
 
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jmva1 said:
not a bad choice but we need a offensive minded coach. we have a solid defense and hiring a defensive coach wouldnt do anything to help our wailing offense
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You have to be delusional. UT most definitely needs a defensive coach. For my money, hire a defensive guy and keep Clawson. Clawson's history is that he can build teams, in particular offenses, and score lots of points.

I'm not on the inside but many people are claiming that he sniffed out the problem with the O fairly early but wasn't allowed to make the right personnel changes.

Chavis can't match wits with better OC's in playcalling or adjustments. Both his lack of effort and defensive philosophy are hurting UT in recruiting. UT has generally had the talent to outclass lesser teams on D. It is only when the talent can't cover up Chavis' gameday inadequacy that they lose it. The UCLA game is the perfect example.
 
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zjcvols said:
1. Bronco Mendenhall
2. Chris Peterson
3. Lane Kiffin
4. Brian Kelly
5. Jim Levitz
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The first one would be risky. The second one would be stupidly risky.

He HAS NOT PROVEN he can coach BSU with consistent success yet much less against the coaching in the SEC.

If UT's schedule had consisted of 4 teams with a winning record and 9 teams with a losing record last year... I can pretty much assure you that Fulmer wouldn't be in trouble right now.
 
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sjt18 said:
You have to be delusional. UT most definitely needs a defensive coach. For my money, hire a defensive guy and keep Clawson. Clawson's history is that he can build teams, in particular offenses, and score lots of points.

I'm not on the inside but many people are claiming that he sniffed out the problem with the O fairly early but wasn't allowed to make the right personnel changes.Chavis can't match wits with better OC's in playcalling or adjustments. Both his lack of effort and defensive philosophy are hurting UT in recruiting. UT has generally had the talent to outclass lesser teams on D. It is only when the talent can't cover up Chavis' gameday inadequacy that they lose it. The UCLA game is the perfect example.
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I guess the pay must be better at UT. Because if what you say is true,or what you heard. Then why on earth would a head coach, although it was d-2 want to be micromanaged in that way? If i were dave clawson, i would resign today. I think there is truth to this statement but its puzzling. Thats messed up if it has any legs.
 
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According to the story, promises were made and not fulfilled about control... or perhaps CPF just convinced Clawson to do it his way. That is the HC's prerogative no matter who it is.

BTW concerning Chavis, CPF's comments concerning why no one else got alot of carries was interesting. UT apparently only had 50 offensive plays. Hard to spread the ball around or score points when the D isn't getting it for you.

IOW's, Chavis was again outcoached but the talent made up for his incompetence.
 
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Also Cartervol, I think there is merit to the suggestion that Clawson came here believing he was entering a succession plan and would get the HC job following CPF.
 
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sjt18 said:
You have to be delusional. UT most definitely needs a defensive coach. For my money, hire a defensive guy and keep Clawson. Clawson's history is that he can build teams, in particular offenses, and score lots of points.

I'm not on the inside but many people are claiming that he sniffed out the problem with the O fairly early but wasn't allowed to make the right personnel changes.

Chavis can't match wits with better OC's in playcalling or adjustments. Both his lack of effort and defensive philosophy are hurting UT in recruiting. UT has generally had the talent to outclass lesser teams on D. It is only when the talent can't cover up Chavis' gameday inadequacy that they lose it. The UCLA game is the perfect example.
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This is why i like Muschamp and Mark Dantonio. I would like Muschamp to come in clean house defensively and keep Clawson and the offensive staff. Dantonio is a defensive minded guy also and like his hard nose style of coaching. Also loves to run the football. To hell with all these spread guys. I'd rather have a tough coach like Saban that will come out and hit you right in the mouth.JMO
 
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sjt18 said:
Also Cartervol, I think there is merit to the suggestion that Clawson came here believing he was entering a succession plan and would get the HC job following CPF.
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I don't think this thing ends well for any of the coaches up there. Clawson at times has looked lost in the plays he has called. Right now i say he'll be lucky to be here a year. Unless of course phil is retained.
 
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Cartervol said:
I don't think this thing ends well for any of the coaches up there. Clawson at times has looked lost in the plays he has called. Right now i say he'll be lucky to be here a year. Unless of course phil is retained.
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Kind of like throwing the ball on 2nd and 3rd down in the red zone after gaining 6 yards running the ball on 1st down. Unbefrickinlieveable!!!
 
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I think Clawson is a very good offensive mind, i just think Phil can't let anyone run the o completely there way, except for cutcliffe, b/c he demanded it
 
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#45
IF tennessee were to hire more of a defensive minded coach i think the best out there by far is bronco mendenhall. it makes no sense to compare him to urban meyer (who is an offensive coach and runs the spread offense) but the way BYU is looking i think he might fit in well
 
#49
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clawson sould stay, needs a coach that work with him, not against him. Mendenhall or Peterson would be perfect, but even joker phillips would be an improvement over now.
 
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JMBIGORANGE said:
This is why i like Muschamp and Mark Dantonio. I would like Muschamp to come in clean house defensively and keep Clawson and the offensive staff. Dantonio is a defensive minded guy also and like his hard nose style of coaching. Also loves to run the football. To hell with all these spread guys. I'd rather have a tough coach like Saban that will come out and hit you right in the mouth.JMO
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I watch a lot of Michigan State football, since one of my good friends is a Sparty girl, and I'm really impressed with what Dantonio has done with that program. The Spartans have always a snakebit, self-destructive, fatalistic program, and Dantonio has come in and turned the whole attitude around in pretty short order. Couple that with what he did at Cincinnati and I'm sold on him.
 
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