2020 Presidential Race

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tvolsfan said:
Even at the state level, there’s no way to divide the country without an enormous amount of people feeling like they’re in the wrong one. And what about when their views change? When their kids have different views? The split fantasies aren’t about solving problems. It’s about finding a way to ignore the ones you don’t like talking about.

Countries have split along religious, ethnic, and cultural lines in the past. There isn’t a way to divide the USA along those lines. I’ve yet to see a reason for a split or anything a split would solve.
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We are a nation built on the concept of individual liberties, but our fearless "leaders" gradually decided that rule must be from the top down. The only way you can effectively deal with community standards and a modicum of individual decision on liberty is from the bottom up. We don't prohibit people from moving to another state or community they like better, so why did we ever decide that a strong federal government should make all communities follow almost all the same dictates?

It makes sense, for example, to insure that the roads meet a common standard and that the traffic rules are consistent from coast to coast so that you can travel from one community to another safely and sanely. But why should every community be forced to teach kids the same way?
 
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Warren Delivered for Massachusetts Defense Interests in Senate

2020 candidate now calling for crackdown on Pentagon lobbying

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.) released a plan last month to crack down on corporate lobbying influence at the Pentagon, but she has worked aggressively on behalf of major defense interests in Massachusetts during her time in the Senate.

A 2015 report in Politico detailed her advocacy for General Dynamics-made tactical radios, which received poor grades in combat tests, and relationship with defense giants General Dynamics and Raytheon. A local defense executive noted that the industry had backed Republican former senator Scott Brown, whom Warren unseated in 2012, due to his position on the Senate Armed Services Committee allowing him to represent home-state contractors. But Politico quoted the executive touting Warren's efforts to reach out to Raytheon and General Dynamics, and Raytheon's spokesman saying it had a "positive relationship" with her:

[T]he executive said Warren's made an effort to reach out to defense companies, including visits to Raytheon and General Dynamics facilities in her state, and that "there's certainly not an impression that she's adversarial" to big-name contracting firms. "The folks that work in our industry are just as much her constituents as anybody else is," said the executive, who requested anonymity to speak candidly.

Warren Delivered for Massachusetts Defense Interests in Senate
 
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Booker Criticizes Wall Street Despite History of Taking Big Bank Dollars

Sen. Cory Booker (D., N.J.), who is running in a crowded field of presidential candidates, was critical of Wall Street during a new interview, despite taking tens of thousands of dollars from Wall Street banks.

Booker recently sat down with CNBC reporter John Harwood at a coffee shop in Des Moines, Iowa, where he was asked about JPMorgan Chase's chief executive Jamie Dimon.

"Jamie Dimon's the head of JP Morgan Chase. He put out a statement this year to shareholders and said that the tax cut was working. He supported the Trump tax cut. But he also said that the social needs of too many Americans are not being met," Harwood said. "Is he part of the problem, or part of the solution?"

Booker prefaced his response by saying he sees things through the "lens of an inner city low-income community."

While Booker has pledged to run his presidential campaign the "right way" by refusing donations from corporate political action committees and federal lobbyists, he has a history of taking money from the corporate PACs of Wall Street banks. During his 2014 campaign, he received $5,000 from Goldman Sachs' PAC, $7,000 from Morgan Stanley's PAC, and $10,000 from JPMorgan Chase & Co's PAC. Individuals from those same three banks would donate over $200,000 to Booker's campaign that same year, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

In These Times, a progressive magazine, reported back in April that Booker started rejecting corporate PAC money in February 2018, but noted he was still receiving many donations from individuals at big banks in the finance industry, including Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, and Prudential Financial.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Warren Delivered for Massachusetts Defense Interests in Senate

2020 candidate now calling for crackdown on Pentagon lobbying

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.) released a plan last month to crack down on corporate lobbying influence at the Pentagon, but she has worked aggressively on behalf of major defense interests in Massachusetts during her time in the Senate.

A 2015 report in Politico detailed her advocacy for General Dynamics-made tactical radios, which received poor grades in combat tests, and relationship with defense giants General Dynamics and Raytheon. A local defense executive noted that the industry had backed Republican former senator Scott Brown, whom Warren unseated in 2012, due to his position on the Senate Armed Services Committee allowing him to represent home-state contractors. But Politico quoted the executive touting Warren's efforts to reach out to Raytheon and General Dynamics, and Raytheon's spokesman saying it had a "positive relationship" with her:

[T]he executive said Warren's made an effort to reach out to defense companies, including visits to Raytheon and General Dynamics facilities in her state, and that "there's certainly not an impression that she's adversarial" to big-name contracting firms. "The folks that work in our industry are just as much her constituents as anybody else is," said the executive, who requested anonymity to speak candidly.

Warren Delivered for Massachusetts Defense Interests in Senate
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Warren speak with forked tongue.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Here's the scary part, as stupid as Biden is he is probably the least scariest of their candidates. He is pretty funny though, almost an 80 year old dude trying to act cool and wear shades. He looks frail like he's skeletors cousin.
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In a tweet earlier today, Trump called Prince Charles, "The Prince of Whales". That really was how he spelled the country in Great Britain, known as "Wales" - like Charles was the prince of aquatic mammals or something.

Is the "stupid" card, what you really want to play when your own candidate is Donald Trump? He makes a fool of himself on a regular basis on Twitter... and the internet never forgets.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
In a tweet earlier today, Trump called Prince Charles, "The Prince of Whales". That really was how he spelled the country in Great Britain, known as "Wales" - like Charles was the prince of aquatic mammals or something.

Is the "stupid" card, what you really want to play when your own candidate is Donald Trump? He makes a fool of himself on a regular basis on Twitter... and the internet never forgets.
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How many times has your autocorrect changed a word and you did not catch it before you hit send.
Your petty obsession is humorous and sad.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
In a tweet earlier today, Trump called Prince Charles, "The Prince of Whales". That really was how he spelled the country in Great Britain, known as "Wales" - like Charles was the prince of aquatic mammals or something.

Is the "stupid" card, what you really want to play when your own candidate is Donald Trump? He makes a fool of himself on a regular basis on Twitter... and the internet never forgets.
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Probably on purpose.
 
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T-TownVol said:
How many times has your autocorrect changed a word and you did not catch it before you hit send.
Your petty obsession is humorous and sad.
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So, you think it was the work of "auto-correct"? I tend to doubt that Twitter would auto-correct from "Wales" to "Whales" ... but I haven't tried it on Twitter and it's not really that important to me. Let's face it, this was consistent with other mistakes he has posted.
 
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An Iowa poll asked 600 folks on the Dem side to name the two potential Democrat nominees they would most like to see get the nomination and not a one of them named DeBlasio even as their #2. Confronted with this fact by a reporter, DeBlasio said, “Well, it’s still early, and it was only 600...”

What a moraine!
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Per the latest polls from Quinnipiac University for the general election:

Biden 53% Trump 40%
Sanders 51% Trump 42%
Warren 49% Trump 42%
Harris 49% Trump 41%
Buttigieg 47% Trump 42%
Booker 47% Trump 42%
Famine 47% Trump 42%
Disease 46% Trump 41%
Death 45% Trump 42%
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I'm kinda shocked at the 13 point spread with Biden. I don't know a single person that has said they were supporting Joe. Anecdotal, I know, but I think I'd hear from one by now.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I'm kinda shocked at the 13 point spread with Biden. I don't know a single person that has said they were supporting Joe. Anecdotal, I know, but I think I'd hear from one by now.
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My buddy is a retired NY city cop. First person who told me he thought Trump would win. Big time Trump guy. Says he’s considering Biden. He is a big union guy and Biden has strong Union support. This is also anecdotal.
 
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volfanhill said:
My buddy is a retired NY city cop. First person who told me he thought Trump would win. Big time Trump guy. Says he’s considering Biden. He is a big union guy and Biden has strong Union support. This is also anecdotal.
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It really surprises me. I figured this would be Bernie's primary to lose.
 
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BreatheUT said:
It's pretty sad really. The USA is like two different countries today. Used to you could disagree about how we get to a solution but there were mainly good intentions on both sides. Today the political correctness, the social justice warriors and fanatics have damaged this country and tried to take over to where something major is going to have to change for this to feel like one country if ever again. Talks of socialism, open terrorist sympathizers in government, open admission to not upholding laws, the labeling of the police as villains and that is just a few. The country will eventually not stand under it's own weight in my opinion.
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Exactly, the basic moral/social principles that all Americans used to agree upon no longer bind us together.

Even as recent as 10-20 years ago, politics was about arguing ideas and policy. Today, it has turned into a culture war. We've gone from arguing policy to arguing whether or not trannies get to use the women's restroom, abortion being legalized, socialism, definition of gender, Islamic ideology, 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment, etc.
 
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It's pretty sad really. The USA is like two different countries today. Used to you could disagree about how we get to a solution but there were mainly good intentions on both sides. Today the political correctness, the social justice warriors and fanatics have damaged this country and tried to take over to where something major is going to have to change for this to feel like one country if ever again. Talks of socialism, open terrorist sympathizers in government, open admission to not upholding laws, the labeling of the police as villains and that is just a few. The country will eventually not stand under it's own weight in my opinion.
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Not sure how being polite (political correctness), advocating minority rights, and not being an ass equates to damaging the country. Trying to take over? Who?
What is this major thing you want to happen to make this country feel like "one" again? We've been socialist for decades. Don't be foolish, there are no "open terrorist sympathizers." Funny you should mention not upholding laws, since Trump. The militarized police force are not your friend.
More importantly, how do you change it?
 
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