2020 Presidential Race

[ClearwaterVol]

No that would be you. When he received his deferment he was not obligated to serve, if he didn't receive a deferment but ran to Canada then you would have a point. He was under no more oblgation to serve than you were.

Private Bonespurs used connections to avoid the draft. Faked a condition to escape his obligation.

 

[37L1]

Private Bonespurs used connections to avoid the draft. Faked a condition to escape his obligation.

FACT CHECK: Donald Trump's Draft Deferments

While attending the University of Pennsylvania’s prestigious Wharton School of Finance, Mr. Trump received a minor medical deferment for bone spurs on both heels of his feet. The medical deferment was expected to be short-term and he was therefore entered in the military draft lottery, where he received an extremely high number, 356 out of 365.

 

[hog88]

Private Bonespurs used connections to avoid the draft. Faked a condition to escape his obligation.

You and Trump have the same service record.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

According to the Chicken Littles, we must be down to about 8 months by now.

If tomorrow never comes .....i will still have made lemonade out of 's. The sourpusses can suck it. Life is too short .

 

[NurseGoodVol]

FACT CHECK: Donald Trump's Draft Deferments

While attending the University of Pennsylvania’s prestigious Wharton School of Finance, Mr. Trump received a minor medical deferment for bone spurs on both heels of his feet. The medical deferment was expected to be short-term and he was therefore entered in the military draft lottery, where he received an extremely high number, 356 out of 365.

Another narrative down the drain 37. What's left?

 

[Franklin Pierce]

 

[luthervol]

Another narrative down the drain 37. What's left?

From the same article.....
1968:
Trump received his fourth and final college deferment on 16 January 1968. After graduating from Wharton, he was reclassified 1-A on 9 July 1968. Trump underwent an Armed Forces physical examination (with a result listed only as “DISQ”) on 19 September 1968 and was reclassified 1-Y (qualified for service only in time of war or national emergency) on 15 October 1968.
Despite the supposedly “short-term” nature of Trump’s disqualifying physical condition, on 17 February 1972 he was reclassified 4-F (not qualified for military service), presumably due to the abolishment of the 1-Y classification the previous year.

 

[AM64]

FACT CHECK: Donald Trump's Draft Deferments

While attending the University of Pennsylvania’s prestigious Wharton School of Finance, Mr. Trump received a minor medical deferment for bone spurs on both heels of his feet. The medical deferment was expected to be short-term and he was therefore entered in the military draft lottery, where he received an extremely high number, 356 out of 365.

You know that lottery was obviously rigged by Trump connections.

 

[Vol737]

Beto was on tv talking about we how we only have ten years left if we don’t end fossil fuel use. We’re dead in ten years, all dead. And there’s a bunch of morons hitching their wagons to this putz! Hahaha.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Odds Jacob Wohl posts here under a Trump nuthugger's username? If anything, this guy is totally committed to the cause.

Jacob Wohl is a proven hack. I wouldn't trust him as far as i could throw him.

 

[37L1]

From the same article.....
1968:
Trump received his fourth and final college deferment on 16 January 1968. After graduating from Wharton, he was reclassified 1-A on 9 July 1968. Trump underwent an Armed Forces physical examination (with a result listed only as “DISQ”) on 19 September 1968 and was reclassified 1-Y (qualified for service only in time of war or national emergency) on 15 October 1968.
Despite the supposedly “short-term” nature of Trump’s disqualifying physical condition, on 17 February 1972 he was reclassified 4-F (not qualified for military service), presumably due to the abolishment of the 1-Y classification the previous year.

And yet he was entered into the draft lottery and his high number kept him from being drafted. The way the lottery worked, if you are eligible that year and not drafted, you don't get called to service. The next year's lottery covered the next eligible birth dates to be drafted and so on. The first draft lottery, December 1, 1969, was for those born between 1944-1950 (Trump's). His lottery number was not reached during the annual conscription period, (not even close). The next lottery was on July 1, 1970, that one covered 1951 birth dates for use in 1971. The draft ended in 1973. If that makes him a draft dodger then there are millions who were eligible, received a high enough lottery number and were not called into service, that were draft dodgers too.

Bottom line, Trump was eligible for the draft, was entered as eligible during the first draft lottery and was not called into service. The draft dodge narrative is FAKE NEWS.

 

[C-south]

I have respect for anyone who says that they dodged the draft because they disagreed with the war. I can think of few things worse than willingly taking the life of another for a cause in which you do not even agree.....just because your government told you.

Lol, what a hypocrite. For someone who loves more and bigger government you think it’s ok ok to dodge service for that government out of fear.

 

[luthervol]

And yet he was entered into the draft lottery and his high number kept him from being drafted. The way the lottery worked, if you are eligible that year and not drafted, you don't get called to service. The next year's lottery covered the next eligible birth dates to be drafted and so on. The first draft lottery, December 1, 1969, was for those born between 1944-1950 (Trump's). His lottery number was not reached during the annual conscription period, (not even close). The next lottery was on July 1, 1970, that one covered 1951 birth dates for use in 1971. The draft ended in 1973. If that makes him a draft dodger then there are millions who were eligible, received a high enough lottery number and were not called into service, that were draft dodgers too.

Bottom line, Trump was eligible for the draft, was entered as eligible during the first draft lottery and was not called into service. The draft dodge narrative is FAKE NEWS.

But after he graduated from college in the spring of 1968, making him eligible to be drafted and sent to Vietnam, he received a diagnosis that would change his path: bone spurs in his heels.
The diagnosis resulted in a coveted 1-Y medical deferment that fall, exempting him from military service as the United States was undertaking huge troop deployments to Southeast Asia, inducting about 300,000 men into the military that year.
The deferment was one of five Mr. Trump received during Vietnam. The others were for education.

He got a 1-y deferment after graduating college. He was never at risk of being drafted. It had nothing to do with a high number.

 

[luthervol]

Lol, what a hypocrite. For someone who loves more and bigger government you think it’s ok ok to dodge service for that government out of fear.

Can you read? Who said ANYTHING about dodging the draft out of fear. (trump)
I said if you disapprove of a war, you should say so and a deferment is great.
Now on the other hand, if you disapprove of a war yet go because your "government" tells you to, that is the ultimate bow down to the power of government.
You guys get everything backwards.

 

[C-south]

Can you read? Who said ANYTHING about dodging the draft out of fear. (trump)
I said if you disapprove of a war, you should say so and a deferment is great.
Now on the other hand, if you disapprove of a war yet go because your "government" tells you to, that is the ultimate bow down to the power of government.
You guys get everything backwards.

Yea I’m sure it’s just because someone disagrees with a war that they should be given a deferment. Maybe Trump just disagreed with the war then. Maybe you dodged out of fear. Every idiotic statement you make you act like there’s a loophole or some stupid “continuum” where you can backtrack.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Private bone spurs

 

[C-south]

Private bone spurs

Private spineless

 

[37L1]

But after he graduated from college in the spring of 1968, making him eligible to be drafted and sent to Vietnam, he received a diagnosis that would change his path: bone spurs in his heels.
The diagnosis resulted in a coveted 1-Y medical deferment that fall, exempting him from military service as the United States was undertaking huge troop deployments to Southeast Asia, inducting about 300,000 men into the military that year.
The deferment was one of five Mr. Trump received during Vietnam. The others were for education.

He got a 1-y deferment after graduating college. He was never at risk of being drafted. It had nothing to do with a high number.

It had everything to do with a high number. Once his time in the box had passed he was no longer likely to be ever drafted.

And FYI, everyone who was drafted did not go to Vietnam. My BIL spent his time in Germany. A lot of those with low numbers didn't get drafted either. Many enlisted in the Navy, Naval Reserve, National Guard, Air Force, Coast Guard, etc. Did they dodge the draft too? By your standards, they did, by avoiding Vietnam.

 

[37L1]

Can you read? Who said ANYTHING about dodging the draft out of fear. (trump)
I said if you disapprove of a war, you should say so and a deferment is great.
Now on the other hand, if you disapprove of a war yet go because your "government" tells you to, that is the ultimate bow down to the power of government.
You guys get everything backwards.

You need to see "Hacksaw Ridge" but it will probably be wasted on you.

 

[luthervol]

It had everything to do with a high number. Once his time in the box had passed he was no longer likely to be ever drafted.

And FYI, everyone who was drafted did not go to Vietnam. My BIL spent his time in Germany. A lot of those with low numbers didn't get drafted either. Many enlisted in the Navy, Naval Reserve, National Guard, Air Force, Coast Guard, etc. Did they dodge the draft too? By your standards, they did, by avoiding Vietnam.

That's not my standard at all. That's just a complete misrepresentation.
He had deferments that kept him from being drafted. No way to spin that.

 

[1972 Grad]

I find it interesting that the Democrat leftists were marching in the streets and burning draft cards 50 years ago, and now they are criticizing people on the right that managed to avoid the draft. I was in college then, and I haven't forgotten how they acted.

 

[luthervol]

I find it interesting that the Democrat leftists were marching in the streets and burning draft cards 50 years ago, and now they are criticizing people on the right that managed to avoid the draft. I was in college then, and I haven't forgotten how they acted.

I think protesting a war can be the height of patriotism. My problem will always be with the people that vocally support a war and then avoid fighting in it. I've always felt that if a politician supports a war, their closest relative between the ages of 18 - 25 should be required to serve in the combat zone.
Just think, what if there would only have been enough Japanese that protested attacking the US. They could have taken to the streets and shouted that it was asinine and they would not go. Maybe even some patriotic Germans could have said, Hitler is an idiot and his vision is crazy. We do not and will not support his war.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Just a reminder to the Bolsheviks.

In 2015 in an interview on 60 Minutes, 1 plus 75 years old Sleepy Joe Biden, said he would never again run for any political office.

 

[volfanhill]

Just a reminder to the Bolsheviks.

In 2015 in an interview on 60 Minutes, 1 plus 75 years old Sleepy Joe Biden, said he would never again run for any political office.

Who cares about that? Of all the stupid stuff to throw at a candidate, any candidate, you chose this? Would you like me to post trumps flip flops on positions over the years? Nahhh...you would just say he’s aloud to change his mind.

 

[1972 Grad]

Just a reminder to the Bolsheviks.

In 2015 in an interview on 60 Minutes, 1 plus 75 years old Sleepy Joe Biden, said he would never again run for any political office.

I am tempted to give him a break on this for 2 reasons. Number one is that Biden couldn't foresee that Trump could be elected, and completely wreck the economy, the stock market, the job market, and get us into a nuclear war when he made that statement back in 2015. He needs to save us from Trump.

Number two is that he couldn't foresee how lucrative that his position could become until he saw millions flow into his son's coffers, based on his influence peddling.