2020 Presidential Race

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luthervol said:
I supported Bern in '16 and would be happy with him in '20, but if I felt that Trump (if he runs again) had a greater chance of beating Bern than Biden, then I would support Biden 100%.
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I would support a duck flying over a pond about to **** on my truck before I would ever vote for Trump.
 
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Burger said:
The Republican party has basically neglected selling their message to blacks.
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I can agree with this, what I can't understand is how they keep buying what the Dems are selling them. After generations of not delivering I'd think many would start to say "hey wait a damn minute".
 
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luthervol said:
If we as a country allow that 35% to once again elect Trump against the wishes of the other 65%, then I guess we get what we deserve: gloom, despair, and misery.
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I, although cynical more often than not, can't bring myself to despair just yet. I always think of LOTR when I think about the future. Gives me hope that eventually we will get it right. Gandalf will come on the first light of the fifth day. Look to the East. :)
 
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hog88 said:
I can agree with this, what I can't understand is how they keep buying what the Dems are selling them. After generations of not delivering I'd think many would start to say "hey wait a damn minute".
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Systemic Manipulation by the Dems. If you are black and vote Republican in a black community, you are considered a race-traitor. There is a reason why the term Government Plantation fits so well.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I, although cynical more often than not, can't bring myself to despair just yet. I always think of LOTR when I think about the future. Gives me hope that eventually we will get it right. Gandalf will come on the first light of the fifth day. Look to the East. :)
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Honestly, the only reason the 2020 election actually matters is because of RBG's supreme court seat.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I, although cynical more often than not, can't bring myself to despair just yet. I always think of LOTR when I think about the future. Gives me hope that eventually we will get it right. Gandalf will come on the first light of the fifth day. Look to the East. :)
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I now completely understand.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I, although cynical more often than not, can't bring myself to despair just yet. I always think of LOTR when I think about the future. Gives me hope that eventually we will get it right. Gandalf will come on the first light of the fifth day. Look to the East. :)
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If Gandalf turns out to be Bern .. we are all F’ed. Just my two pennies worth . Lol
 
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Burger said:
1) Bernie Bros not voting for Clinton
2) Trump had an actual plan beyond HRC Bad
3) Low turnout for Minorities
4) Trump related better to the working class ( I know this is asinine, but true )
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1) is the biggest one
2) people didn’t like either candidate but thought it would be funny to vote for Trump to burn the house down
3) 30 years of anti-Hillary conservative propaganda worked
4) Russian targeted social media propaganda worked
 
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Kingston Vol said:
1) is the biggest one
2) people didn’t like either candidate but thought it would be funny to vote for Trump to burn the house down
3) 30 years of anti-Hillary conservative propaganda worked
4) Russian targeted social media propaganda worked
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First three are true. Polls of voters showed #4 didn't have any effect.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
1) is the biggest one
2) people didn’t like either candidate but thought it would be funny to vote for Trump to burn the house down
3) 30 years of anti-Hillary conservative propaganda worked
4) Russian targeted social media propaganda worked
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those Russian bots man , every time I look at FB now I just want to jump up and shout Trumps name ...smh
 
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Burger said:
First three are true. Polls of voters showed #4 didn't have any effect.
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I don’t think people know the difference between what was Russian propaganda and what was the normal, run of the mill stuff both sides launch back and forth at each other in the form of memes, videos, etc.

It was really effective - and we’ll see if they’re able to do it in 2020. Trump certainly seems to be welcoming all the help he can get.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I don’t think people know the difference between what was Russian propaganda and what was the normal, run of the mill stuff both sides launch back and forth at each other in the form of memes, videos, etc.
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That is probably very true. The average American Voter is very stupid.
 
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To be honest, and I think we all can admit this is true: the real reason Trump is President is because Hillary was a really bad candidate.

The are other things that contributed to it - but any other candidate likely beats Trump soundly.
 
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