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MoCo_Vol said:
My favorite offerings with a habanero sauce is Marie Sharp's, the white label & gold label.
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Nandos Peri Peri sauce is fantastic hot sauce. I'm a big fan of their garlic and lemon herb flavors.
 
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chargervol said:
Got it.
I just happen to disagree strongly. Absolutely no reason he couldn't have used better wording imo.

Just feels like several are defending our coach because he's our coach, not because they don't believe there was better alternatives.

My guess, someone brings a tweet here where Florida's coach said this, we're all laughing.
But we're never all going to agree on everything. 👍
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No we agree 100% on that, it was an absurd question that he shouldn't have answer at all. It's what separates Saban from Butch. Media want you to be honest and say "Oh I'd totes be out the door if they paid that buyout"
 
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Jimmy Football said:
Ah. Well, Rick could have blown off the question. "You know, that whole thing is done with. I'm where I want to be, at a place that's committed to winning basketball, with the best fans in college sports, and I'm looking forward to finalizing my staff. And that starts with Kim English."

Easy.
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And get called Butch Jones...winning!
 
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drvenner said:
This could be true. I personally think he's an ass hole.
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Ha. Yeah, the publishing teases were a clear mistake. Like I said, it's a pet theory, not a wholehearted belief.

For all I know, he's just stuck figuring out what sigil to give House No Name that had a squire in a tournament 2,837 years ago.
 
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Shoot, "We're here to talk about Tennessee basketball, and the addition of Coach Kim English to our staff. Next question"

Is fine as well.

But let's all look inside our selves and be truly honest. You don't care, if he stays here another 10 years and wins 3-5 SEC titles and makes a few elite eight and maybe a final four appearance you won't give a rat's a$$ about today's presser.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
He literally said if they'd have paid the buyout I'd be out. There's no other way to view that than that he would rather be at UCLA. You can tell yourself differently all you want.
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i just watched the whole press conf.

we get a tweet w/no context, and nothing else that was said, as if it was the only thing he said.

people are going to feel like they're going to feel, especially if they just go off the tweet. but after watching the whole press conf, and listening to the questions and seeing how he answered the questions, and listening to everything he said, i'm going back to what i said at the beginning.

don't know if you watched it not yet Bass, or if you intend to. but there's a lot more to it than the tweet we got an our or so ago. may help ease your feelings? might not?

it reaffirmed my original thoughts on the matter though.
 
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Was looking at a recap of the 2018 spring game sort of to see how much we've improved from one year to the next and was reminded of this:

The final play from scrimmage in Tennessee’s Orange & White Game was a play befitting this year’s spring camp.

Sophomore-to-be quarterback Jarrett Guarantano dropped back and fired a pass down the seam to Eli Wolf, and the sophomore-to-be tight end found a way to juggle the ball and corral it without breaking stride and fight his way into the end zone for a 29-yard touchdown.

Moments like that are the reason Wolf was honored moments later as this year’s winner of the Harvey Robinson Award — an award given annually to Tennessee’s most improved player in spring camp.
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Wonder if Eli gets on the field for Georgia this year?
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Well that's also your paraphrasing of the comment.

Rick Barnes is still a man of free will making his own decisions, his interpretation of what UCLA or Tennessee doing during the negotiations being considered a sign from God does not mean that God specifically -did- anything. Men of faith feel they are being driven into their decisions by God, but it is still their own will that drives them. It's why some pastors are fine taking millions and living in mansions, and some are willing to put cyanide in Kool-Aid to take out nearly a thousand followers.

"God's will" is not man's to assign.
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Fair enough. Let me rephrase:

I personally think Rick Barnes is being disingenuous by claiming that he believed UCLA's unwillingness to pay a buyout was a sign from God for him to stay at Tennessee.

I believe Barnes' decision was purely a business/career matter (which is not wrong or immoral), and it feels like he is dishonestly invoking divine revelation in a ham-handed attempt to smooth over a boneheaded statement.

It doesn't really matter though. I just really wish UT and its employees would quit doing these sorts of things to themselves.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Was looking at a recap of the 2018 spring game sort of to see how much we've improved from one year to the next and was reminded of this:



Wonder if Eli gets on the field for Georgia this year?
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What's awkward is Eli likely landed there because of Chaney's willingness to use TEs so much in the passing game...
 
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Jimmy Football said:
Fair enough. Let me rephrase:

I personally think Rick Barnes is being disingenuous by claiming that he believed UCLA's unwillingness to pay a buyout was a sign from God for him to stay at Tennessee.

I believe Barnes' decision was purely a business/career matter (which is not wrong or immoral), and it feels like he is dishonestly invoking divine revelation in a ham-handed attempt to smooth over a boneheaded statement.

It doesn't really matter though. I just really wish UT and its employees would quit doing these sorts of things to themselves.
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Absolutely agree, not everyone behind a microphone truly knows how to speak through it. Never more apparent than listening to sports athletes & coaches.
 
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Jimmy Football said:
Fair enough. Let me rephrase:

I personally think Rick Barnes is being disingenuous by claiming that he believed UCLA's unwillingness to pay a buyout was a sign from God for him to stay at Tennessee.

I believe Barnes' decision was purely a business/career matter (which is not wrong or immoral), and it feels like he is dishonestly invoking divine revelation in a ham-handed attempt to smooth over a boneheaded statement.

It doesn't really matter though. I just really wish UT and its employees would quit doing these sorts of things to themselves.
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I think maybe you raise a good question because I've often been around people of Faith who would say they are following God's Will in their lives and I've always wondered about that. Do they have something like a secret connection where God tells them what to do or not to do or do they just use something like the wisdom of the Proverbs and prayer and stuff like that and seek to maintain a clear conscience before God? I think it's the clear conscience but knowledge, understanding, and wisdom surely informs someone of what is the right or best thing to do in a given situation or maybe not. I don't think I ever really tried any of that. You might say I've spent my life living on the edge, keeping my own counsel, sort of like Yoda.
 
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Honestly, I don't understand the outrage. Barnes was honest, an historic blue blood came calling and he almost went and would have if money was right. But Fulmer and UT made him a very good offer to stay and he did. This is a business, a career, a legacy for coaches.

I'm grateful that Rick Barnes is still UT's coach but if he left for LA and more $ I would understand why. Really glad UT came through and he stayed. Now we won't have to rebuild the program again and instead recruiting will be even better and we'll be dancing again next year, hopefully win it all. Can't wait to watch, GBO!
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Honestly, I don't understand the outrage. Barnes was honest, an historic blue blood came calling and he almost went and would have if money was right. But Fulmer and UT made him a very good offer to stay and he did. This is a business, a career, a legacy for coaches.

I'm grateful that Rick Barnes is still UT's coach but if he left for LA and more $ I would understand why. Really glad UT came through and he stayed. Now we won't have to rebuild the program again and instead recruiting will be even better and we'll be dancing again next year, hopefully win it all. Can't wait to watch, GBO!
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I've gathered the majority of the outrage is the tie ins to this decision with God & Christianity specifically.


I think had it been a simple "I love UT, but had UCLA paid my buyout with the raise they were offering I would have left." Probably less outrage
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I've gathered the majority of the outrage is the tie ins to this decision with God & Christianity specifically.


I think had it been a simple "I love UT, but had UCLA paid my buyout with the raise they were offering I would have left." Probably less outrage
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I skipped over most of the posts but you're probably right and I'm not surprised.
 
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