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#30,601
I was super high on AA when we hired him but I’ve lost a ton of faith. The Donaldson signing, the terrible bullpen since last year, the lack of balls to pull off a trade with our prospects, plus the Carter Stewart draft pick...(a farm he didn’t built). Taking O’Day contract to give up less prospects. And then keeping crappy players for too long because of “options”. It’s been a bad few months.
 
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#30,602
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Yeah...I'm not out by any means but this is going to be a painful season because of what could have been. If they dont make moves NEXT off season either then it will get bad I think. You cant just keep lying to your fans and kicking the can down the road.
 
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zjcvols said:
I was super high on AA when we hired him but I’ve lost a ton of faith. The Donaldson signing, the terrible bullpen since last year, the lack of balls to pull off a trade with our prospects, plus the Carter Stewart draft pick...(a farm he didn’t built). Taking O’Day contract to give up less prospects. And then keeping crappy players for too long because of “options”. It’s been a bad few months.
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Agreed but I feel like he is playing with his arms tied behind his back because of liberty
 
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BigOrange15 said:
Yeah...I'm not out by any means but this is going to be a painful season because of what could have been. If they dont make moves NEXT off season either then it will get bad I think. You cant just keep lying to your fans and kicking the can down the road.
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Liberty has been in charge of the Braves for how long? I think we know what we are going to get from them
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Liberty has been in charge of the Braves for how long? I think we know what we are going to get from them
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But this was the first off season where everyone was sort of in agreement that we had arrived because of who we had up and who we still had in the pipe...pressure is just going to increase. Whether anything will actually be done...well.
 
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zjcvols said:
I was super high on AA when we hired him but I’ve lost a ton of faith. The Donaldson signing, the terrible bullpen since last year, the lack of balls to pull off a trade with our prospects, plus the Carter Stewart draft pick...(a farm he didn’t built). Taking O’Day contract to give up less prospects. And then keeping crappy players for too long because of “options”. It’s been a bad few months.
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I agree with a lot of that, but If he makes it back, O'Day could really help the pen.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Agreed but I feel like he is playing with his arms tied behind his back because of liberty
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Maybe, but he spent $23M on a position that didn’t need an upgrade, while then taking “bargain deals” for catcher and RF while refusing to give up any prospects.

It was bad
 
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GAVol said:
I agree with a lot of that, but If he makes it back, O'Day could really help the pen.
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Yeah he could, but O’Day isn’t even throwing from a mound yet. And it was obviously short sighted because we could have used that $9M for 2 bullpen arms
 
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BigOrange15 said:
But this was the first off season where everyone was sort of in agreement that we had arrived because of who we had up and who we still had in the pipe...pressure is just going to increase. Whether anything will actually be done...well.
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I agree with this was the first off season we have arrived, ive just lost all faith
 
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Got swept. Outscored by 11 runs. Bullpen pitched 11 innings in four days.

Probably the worst way to start a year as you can get.
 
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zjcvols said:
Yeah he could, but O’Day isn’t even throwing from a mound yet. And it was obviously short sighted because we could have used that $9M for 2 bullpen arms
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The sickening thing is that the $9 million is really beside the point. They saw a patchwork bullpen struggle last year and did zero to fix it.
 
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zjcvols said:
Why? Braves aren’t talking to him
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I don’t buy that. Seems to me every team is making the exact same low year offer (you might call it collusion) and he’s not biting.

But I’m saying he may have a little more leverage over Atlanta because their need is much more pressing.
 
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zjcvols said:
Maybe, but he spent $23M on a position that didn’t need an upgrade, while then taking “bargain deals” for catcher and RF while refusing to give up any prospects.

It was bad
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I disagree on 3rd being a position that we didnt need to upgrade. We needed and still do imo power, thats the bedt place to find a bat. Did he overpay for Donaldson a bit imo. But i would rather take a chance on a guy who coukd hit 40 homers than play another meh contact hitter everyday. Yes I know camargo has a good glove but if Donaldson gives us pop its worth it imo
 
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