Mueller Report Imminent

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#679
Orange_Crush said:
Perhaps we should start having conversations about how to see the babies cared for while not rewarding irresponsible, destructive behavior and growing the government, as the government may not and probably isn't the most efficient way of administering the solution?
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I absolutely agree with you. The government isn't the best solution (for much of anything, excepting national defense). Ideally, communities of Christ-followers should be demonstrably taking up the cause and leading the way with grace, love, and peace. If America's churches were more interested in following the teachings of Christ than building temples of excess and pampering their membership, the government would have to shut down most of its assistance programs from lack of need. But, I digress.

And while I have likely irreparably harmed my witness with you (and others) in the brash way I have fumbled words and attempted to make points, I do want to encourage you in your walk with Christ. Be careful not to become legalistic as some of the early church bodies tried to become. I also don't like the oversexualization that society is pouring out; my wife and I do our best to raise our children to understand the special nature of the sexual relationship. Maybe we can all make some headway as families, then as communities, and so on.

We have to be very careful about how we discuss consequences. As fellow followers of Christ, we both know that justice would mean God striking us down where we sit for our sinful natures. Instead, we were given mercy in the incarnation of Jesus the Christ. As His followers, we are expected to extend that mercy to others. To quote a friend and pastor who has been a part of my faith restoration journey: "Jesus is always on the side of the outcasts, the sick, the afflicted, the despised, and the unclean. While the Bible can be used selectively to make a solid argument for being prejudiced and exclusive, Jesus is always welcoming and sharing a table with women, foreigners, drunks, whores, cheats, liars, and deceivers." Mercy doesn't mean condoning the actions we disagree with. It merely means extending the love of Christ to them and letting the Spirit do the convicting.

Peace be with you.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
He freaking said it in the video why can’t you act like an adult and just accept that?
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Sorry. If I'd shared a story from CNN or MSNBC, people would have spazzed out and I would have been dogpiled. I guess some sources are more equal than others here.
 
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#683
AshG said:
Sorry. If I'd shared a story from CNN or MSNBC, people would have spazzed out and I would have been dogpiled. I guess some sources are more equal than others here.
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Oh ffs if you share a CNN op-ed you may indeed get questioned. But regardless of the sight there is a video of him stating exactly what was on the article title. You’re being disingenuous as hell with your explanation.
 
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AshG said:
I absolutely agree with you. The government isn't the best solution (for much of anything, excepting national defense). Ideally, communities of Christ-followers should be demonstrably taking up the cause and leading the way with grace, love, and peace. If America's churches were more interested in following the teachings of Christ than building temples of excess and pampering their membership, the government would have to shut down most of its assistance programs from lack of need. But, I digress.

And while I have likely irreparably harmed my witness with you (and others) in the brash way I have fumbled words and attempted to make points, I do want to encourage you in your walk with Christ. Be careful not to become legalistic as some of the early church bodies tried to become. I also don't like the oversexualization that society is pouring out; my wife and I do our best to raise our children to understand the special nature of the sexual relationship. Maybe we can all make some headway as families, then as communities, and so on.

We have to be very careful about how we discuss consequences. As fellow followers of Christ, we both know that justice would mean God striking us down where we sit for our sinful natures. Instead, we were given mercy in the incarnation of Jesus the Christ. As His followers, we are expected to extend that mercy to others. To quote a friend and pastor who has been a part of my faith restoration journey: "Jesus is always on the side of the outcasts, the sick, the afflicted, the despised, and the unclean. While the Bible can be used selectively to make a solid argument for being prejudiced and exclusive, Jesus is always welcoming and sharing a table with women, foreigners, drunks, whores, cheats, liars, and deceivers." Mercy doesn't mean condoning the actions we disagree with. It merely means extending the love of Christ to them and letting the Spirit do the convicting.

Peace be with you.
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You haven't damaged anything with me.

I agree more than you think but felt the need to play a bit of devil's advocate to show the cultural causes beneath the conversation.

Me as legalist... :) I'm the biggest cheerleader for the castoffs.

If your ever through Chattanooga, lunch or dinner is on me as I think you would enjoy the conversation.

Blessings
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Well then.... plenty of time for President Trump to have someone poison it.
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"After Mueller report shows no Trump-Russia collusion" Does it matter what the report says when you are willing to pretend to know something you haven't even read yet? Clearly, the person who came up with that headline has an agenda.
 
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AshG said:
I absolutely agree with you. The government isn't the best solution (for much of anything, excepting national defense). Ideally, communities of Christ-followers should be demonstrably taking up the cause and leading the way with grace, love, and peace. If America's churches were more interested in following the teachings of Christ than building temples of excess and pampering their membership, the government would have to shut down most of its assistance programs from lack of need. But, I digress.

And while I have likely irreparably harmed my witness with you (and others) in the brash way I have fumbled words and attempted to make points, I do want to encourage you in your walk with Christ. Be careful not to become legalistic as some of the early church bodies tried to become. I also don't like the oversexualization that society is pouring out; my wife and I do our best to raise our children to understand the special nature of the sexual relationship. Maybe we can all make some headway as families, then as communities, and so on.

We have to be very careful about how we discuss consequences. As fellow followers of Christ, we both know that justice would mean God striking us down where we sit for our sinful natures. Instead, we were given mercy in the incarnation of Jesus the Christ. As His followers, we are expected to extend that mercy to others. To quote a friend and pastor who has been a part of my faith restoration journey: "Jesus is always on the side of the outcasts, the sick, the afflicted, the despised, and the unclean. While the Bible can be used selectively to make a solid argument for being prejudiced and exclusive, Jesus is always welcoming and sharing a table with women, foreigners, drunks, whores, cheats, liars, and deceivers." Mercy doesn't mean condoning the actions we disagree with. It merely means extending the love of Christ to them and letting the Spirit do the convicting.

Peace be with you.
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Although I am an unbeliever...this is the Christianity that was modeled by my late father and which I have utmost respect for as a belief system/philosophy ...
“That which is hateful to you, do not unto another: The rest is commentary — [and now] go study.”

Wa-Alaikum-Salaam
 
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#697
BowlBrother85 said:
"After Mueller report shows no Trump-Russia collusion" Does it matter what the report says when you are willing to pretend to know something you haven't even read yet? Clearly, the person who came up with that headline has an agenda.
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Clearly.


LOL


You should probably prepare yourself with some kind of sedative when it does come out. I suggest:

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#699
#699
Beto O’Rourke: If Mueller Report Is Held, America May Not See 244th Year

Democrat 2020 candidate Robert “Beto” O’Rourke warned from the campaign trail in South Carolina Friday night there may not be another year of America if the Mueller report is not made public.

“Republicans and Democrats should do whatever they can to make sure their constituents, the American people, can read that report, form their own judgement, make their own decisions, and that the truth comes out,” O’Rourke said at a campaign stop in South Carolina Friday.

O’Rourke warned that America may not see another year if details of Russian interference in the 2016 election included in the Mueller report are not made public, saying, “This is an unprecedented attack on this country and on our democracy, and we are owed the facts. And if we do not receive them, 243 years in, there’s nothing that guarantees us a 244th.”

Beto O’Rourke: If Mueller Report Held, America May Not See 244th Year
 
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