Colorado Dems look to ditch Electoral College system

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McDad said:
There are ongoing arguments for 200+ years about where State's rights end and the Constitution begins. Smarter people than me go round and round with it.
Imo, representation is an important concept in our form of governance. A huge city in a state has tremendous sway over the political representation of that state (see Illinois). The city folk are (potentially) over represented while the rural folk are (potentially) underrepresented. The electoral college is supposed to balance this dynamic.
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Hasn't the Supreme Court ruled against every state that has tried to implement some version of an electoral college on the state level. GA attempted a County Unit System that was ruled unconstitutional. The standard seems to be "one man-one equal vote" for everything but the presidential election.
 
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luthervol said:
Hasn't the Supreme Court ruled against every state that has tried to implement some version of an electoral college on the state level. GA attempted a County Unit System that was ruled unconstitutional. The standard seems to be "one man-one equal vote" for everything but the presidential election.
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First of all that’s sexist. One “gender is irrelevant since Dims have no idea what gender they are” person.

Second, the man/person has not in the history of our republic elected the President. The states send their representatives, thus the states elect the president.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
First of all that’s sexist. One “gender is irrelevant since Dims have no idea what gender they are” person.

Second, the man/person has not in the history of our republic elected the President. The states send their representatives, thus the states elect the president.
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Is that suppose to contradict what I said?
 
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hog88 said:
I don't claim to be a mind reader.
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luthervol said:
Is that suppose to contradict what I said?
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It’s the exact opposite of what you said. But I realize your diminished mental capacity can’t see that. Bless your heart.

Edit: nope! You are in fact correct it’s the same as what you said. I just misread your whiney post. Bless my heart this time.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
It’s the exact opposite of what you said. But I realize your diminished mental capacity can’t see that. Bless your heart.

Edit: nope! You are in fact correct it’s the same as what you said. I just misread your whiney post. Bless my heart this time.
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I understand how that can happen.....I read all of your posts with preconceived notions.
 
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luthervol said:
Hasn't the Supreme Court ruled against every state that has tried to implement some version of an electoral college on the state level. GA attempted a County Unit System that was ruled unconstitutional. The standard seems to be "one man-one equal vote" for everything but the presidential election.
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probably because the presidential election is spelled out in the Constitution with the electoral college.

Nothing says the Constitution has to be consistent among itself.
 
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Not arguing for or against it but I do believe more people would vote if the President were chosen by national popular vote. I'm pretty sure a lot of Republicans on the left coast and a lot of Democrats in the South don't bother to vote because...well...what's the point?
 
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LouderVol said:
probably because the presidential election is spelled out in the Constitution with the electoral college.

Nothing says the Constitution has to be consistent among itself.
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That's true. There's just a growing number of people who feel that piece of the constitution no longer functions as intended, or if that was the intent, then time has proven the constitution fallible. Enough to amend? Not yet.
40% of the presidential elections this century have been won by the person receiving less votes. The minority loves that fact, the majority is bothered by that fact.
 
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luthervol said:
Hasn't the Supreme Court ruled against every state that has tried to implement some version of an electoral college on the state level. GA attempted a County Unit System that was ruled unconstitutional. The standard seems to be "one man-one equal vote" for everything but the presidential election.
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I don't know, my friend. The senator appoint was also unique and not one man one vote before the amendment.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
Not arguing for or against it but I do believe more people would vote if the President were chosen by national popular vote. I'm pretty sure a lot of Republicans on the left coast and a lot of Democrats in the South don't bother to vote because...well...what's the point?
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I bet you're right. A state dominated by one party no doubt has voters of the other party who dont bother voting.
 
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luthervol said:
That's true. There's just a growing number of people who feel that piece of the constitution no longer functions as intended, or if that was the intent, then time has proven the constitution fallible. Enough to amend? Not yet.
40% of the presidential elections this century have been won by the person receiving less votes. The minority loves that fact, the majority is bothered by that fact.
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We have surprisingly few amendments considering the polarization of our country.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
Not arguing for or against it but I do believe more people would vote if the President were chosen by national popular vote. I'm pretty sure a lot of Republicans on the left coast and a lot of Democrats in the South don't bother to vote because...well...what's the point?
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Gerrymandering also plays a role in voter turnout.
 
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luthervol said:
Hasn't the Supreme Court ruled against every state that has tried to implement some version of an electoral college on the state level. GA attempted a County Unit System that was ruled unconstitutional. The standard seems to be "one man-one equal vote" for everything but the presidential election.
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The last thing the Dims want is the county unit system. They would never see the inside of the white house as resident in chief again.
 
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How about keeping the EC, but don't make it winner take all in a given state. If the vote is 60 pct GOP, the GOP gets 60 pct of the electoral votes from that state.
 
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lawgator1 said:
How about keeping the EC, but don't make it winner take all in a given state. If the vote is 60 pct GOP, the GOP gets 60 pct of the electoral votes from that state.
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I still think if any change is made, make it the winner of each congressional district gets those electors and the popular vote winner in the states gets the two senate electors.
 
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