Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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Colgate, then Louisville, with Houston or Nevada? and then probably gotta beat Virginia...

The nice thing is Kentucky has that South #1...so if we beat them in the SECT we probably get that #1 seed. I know a lot of people say it's "decided" already, but I think with the way the ACC/SEC are lining up it'll be decided in the conference tournaments. South bracket would be interesting since we'd end up with a potential Elite Eight match-up with Duke.

It’ll absolutely be decided this weekend. UT is still in the mix. IF they make a run and win the SEC Tournament, you can’t keep UT off the top seed line.
 
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It’ll absolutely be decided this weekend. UT is still in the mix. IF they make a run and win the SEC Tournament, you can’t keep UT off the top seed line.

Oh we win the SEC Tournament we're in. If we beat UK & make the championship game and drop a close one we may still be a 1 seed. Have to beat UK though to have a shot at it.
 
Ok...Barnes went from 1st to 3rd in the SEC. Davis went from 14th to 7th.

I get being a homer, but stop cherry picking counter points. Davis had the better season in the SEC based on the previous year. All that award does is highlight that.

Barnes won it last year when he was more deserving of it. I am just happy Bone got 2nd team

Yeah I like "turnaround artists" winning CoY. Taking a great team and having them play great is good, but not CoY. I guess it's biased toward coaches that start with less, but CRB should have taken the SEC if he wanted that title. I believe back to back SEC champs could have warranted another CoY because of its significance. But we failed to do so. Is what it is.

But honestly Wade would have won it I bet had he not...ya know
cheated.
 
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So a great coach that does an outstanding job recruiting and developing can never win the award because he is just doing his job. K

I get that bias - they can certainly still win, but they have a higher standard. We aren't giving awards for recruiting, but coaching. If Cal wants that award he needs to go win the league convincingly with all his 5 stars. UK and UF have run the table before so it is possible. UK needs to run it or have 1 loss and then he will have earned it.
 
I was actually speaking about all coaches even the ones at Duke, NC, Kansa, etc. They are automatically disqualified because they do their job by those standards.

Not automatically DQ but when you give out individual yearly coaching awards it she be looked at as the coaching job that was done within that particular 365 days.

I compare it to this years SEC east ...Just like Mullen at UF this year. Upping the win total from a dreadful Florida team in his first year is more impressive to me than Kirby smart LSU year at Georgia. Everyone knew they were going to be good and they had a good year.

The situations are very similar to Barnes and ole miss
 
Tennis coach at Texas. Looks like the scandal was about getting non academically eligible kids admitted to schools via bribes by "recruiting" them to non-revenue sports that they may or may not have even played in high school. Once they were admitted they would "quit" those sports but retain their admission to the schools.

Wait, tennis has different eligibility standards than major revenue sports??

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Barton Simmons said:
I live in Nashville and Vanderbilt had it's pro-day today so i stopped by just to check it out. I spoke to a scout who was telling me his next stop was Tennessee. He said that he doesn't think Tennessee has anyone draftable but that he wants to make sure he goes to make an appearance because the feel is that they are going to have a lot of pros there in the future. The feel in the NFL circles is that UT will will have dudes and that with the systems they run on both sides of the ball they will be pro-ready guys. Just thought it was interesting that expectations of this staff being able to get it done on the developmental front have bubbled up to NFL personnel guys.

Good vibes from Barton
 
How the hell did we successfully hire two guys in a row who scorched the earth on the way out? I mean they both just absolutely nuked the roster.
This is a good question and most of the blame lies with bad decisions by the fired head coach. Dooley's worst decision was his DC hire and Butch's worst decision IMO was firing his S&C coach. However, part of the blame is when you have a dead man walking head coach due to fan revolt if there is any appearance of a down turn. It kills that last year (or two) recruiting and makes it very difficult to hire good assistant coaches when everyone knows the head man will likely be gone. When you combine that with a new coach's 1st year recruiting cycle nearly always being tough... you end up with at least two poor recruiting years and a bunch of other players looking to leave because their HC was fired. Hopefully, we fans will give CJP a little more leeway if he runs into any apparent down turns along the way.
 
So, I’m assuming that there won’t be a “Don’t pick us” video put out this, since CRB didn’t get COY? By the way, I’m on the side, that he should have, but I am a homer also.
 
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