The shut down thread

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Mick said:
That would leave 9,400 that do need in the US.
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That isn't the point. That's possibly 600 more familes affected because they aren't coming in legally and getting vetted.

And why do we need them? The illegals here now want to become citizens and work, right? That's what you all keep telling us.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Do you consider the location the Border patrol seized the 700lbs of cocaine last week a "port of entry?"
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"705 lbs. of cocaine, caltrops, evidence of sophisticated counter surveillance and a splashdown in one encounter are an obvious reminder of the need for more personnel, technology, and infrastructure in the Rio Grande Valley,"
 
#3,610
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Mick said:
"705 lbs. of cocaine, caltrops, evidence of sophisticated counter surveillance and a splashdown in one encounter are an obvious reminder of the need for more personnel, technology, and infrastructure in the Rio Grande Valley,"

A Wall will not stop caltrops. I assume you know what one is.
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What in the hell is a caltrop supposed to do to a 30 ft wall?
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Do you consider the location the Border patrol seized the 700lbs of cocaine last week a "port of entry?"
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This would be a good time to point out the effectiveness of the BPA's.

"705 lbs. of cocaine, caltrops, evidence of sophisticated counter surveillance and a splashdown in one encounter are an obvious reminder of the need for more personnel, technology, and infrastructure in the Rio Grande Valley," acting Chief Patrol Agent Raul Ortiz said in a statement.
 
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#3,617
Mick said:
I thought that said catapult. My bad.
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Damn mick, I thought you were saying the mexicans are going to stand there throwing caltrops at a steel wall like ninja stars.

But lets go back to your quote that you pasted and obviously didn't read.


The Rio Grande valley isn't a port of entry. You would be stupid to try to bring 700lbs across at a port of entry.

Getting a catapult *checks spelling* to the Rio Grande valley 1000 miles from no where is impossible. Even if you built it like a trailer so a truck could pull it you'd be picked up pretty quick by a drone or a camera.

Infrastructure is a wall. It's one of many things needed to make all the infrastructure come together and work in conjunction as one.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Damn mick, I thought you were saying the mexicans are going to stand there throwing caltrops at a steel wall like ninja stars.

But lets go back to your quote that you pasted and obviously didn't read.


The Rio Grande valley isn't a port of entry. You would be stupid to try to bring 700lbs across at a port of entry.

Getting a catapult *checks spelling* to the Rio Grande valley 1000 miles from no where is impossible. Even if you built it like a trailer so a truck could pull it you'd be picked up pretty quick by a drone or a camera.

Infrastructure is a wall. It's one of many things needed to make all the infrastructure come together and work in conjunction as one.
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Infrastructure is road, towers, electricity, communications and walls.

I would be prepared to agree with the BPA on what is needed, people, technology, and infrastructure. Just a few post back you were saying that in the Rio Grande Valley a wall would not be necessary because of the geographical challenges present. Did you change your mind?
 
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Mick said:
Infrastructure is road, towers, electricity, communications and walls.

I would be prepared to agree with the BPA on what is needed, people, technology, and infrastructure. Just a few post back you were saying that in the Rio Grande Valley a wall would not be necessary because of the geographical challenges present. Did you change your mind?
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No. Did you see where this 700lbs came across the Rio Grande? It's flat land with the river between it. The Rio Grande river with geographical challenges looks like the Grand Canyon just on a smaller scale. Still to tall for a crossing.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
No. Did you see where this 700lbs came across the Rio Grande? It's flat land with the river between it. The Rio Grande river with geographical challenges looks like the Grand Canyon just on a smaller scale. Still to tall for a crossing.
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Are you trying to convince me a wall is needed when the BPA stopped it? They did such a great job, I think we should have more of them. More effective than a wall thats for sure.
 
#3,624
#3,624
Mick said:
Are you trying to convince me a wall is needed when the BPA stopped it? They did such a great job, I think we should have more of them. More effective than a wall thats for sure.
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They did. If I'm not mistaken they already had it loaded on to the atv on the US side and was moving it. The BP got after them and the guy turned around and ran it in the river and swam back across to Mexico.

I was wondering, did they barge/boat the atv across or was this an illegal or member of the cartel already in the US that met them on our side with the atv. Haven't read that part yet.


It's easy for a truck of 4 BP to respond to this one man atv. The problem is when there's 100s or 1000s scattering. A wall just slows them down allowing BP to react and respond. Even if there's a 100 on the mexico side using a ladder to come over look how slow that is to them compared to just being able to cross and scatter as a huge group.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
They did. If I'm not mistaken they already had it loaded on to the atv on the US side and was moving it. The BP got after them and the guy turned around and ran it in the river and swam back across to Mexico.

I was wondering, did they barge/boat the atv across or was this an illegal or member of the cartel already in the US that met them on our side with the atv. Haven't read that part yet.


It's easy for a truck of 4 BP to respond to this one man atv. The problem is when there's 100s or 1000s scattering. A wall just slows them down allowing BP to react and respond. Even if there's a 100 on the mexico side using a ladder to come over look how slow that is to them compared to just being able to cross and scatter as a huge group.
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Man just hope that Trump digs in again. I hope he does.
 
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