Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[HankHill]

Same. Secondary is promising. Front 7 could be rough this year if these JUCOs don’t pan out

I just want Darrel Taylor to put it all together and be the edge guy he is capable up.

 

[Kingston Vol]

When you are at the point when you are firing all three coordinators then maybe the head coach is the problem.

They will realize this in about, oh, 12 months or so.

 

[DD4ME]

Wish we'd target the Valdosta St HC, but I've already mentioned that.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Defense jumped from 83 to 50 this year while going against a much tougher schedule. Plenty to criticize Pruitt on but defense ain’t it cheif.

Ibthink he and others are really basing that opinion off the last two performances.

 

[butchna]

Sark lining up. Honestly didn't think we'd actually make it this far into the post season.

Lot of people guessed after NFL season ended.

 

[tomq_123]

It wouldn’t be a UT coaching search without getting someone at OSU a raise.

 

[volfanCLT]

When NFL teams fire all 3 coordinators but keep the head coach

 

[butchna]

When you are at the point when you are firing all three coordinators then maybe the head coach is the problem.

But when that same HC took you to the Super Bowl just two seasons prior? Maybe you benefit the doubt.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Effective with the right players!

Should only take 3-4 recruiting classes.

 

[T Dog]

Is it tomorrow yet?

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Bring Sark to Knoxville, please.

 

[DD4ME]

I looked it up and Grass and Pruitt have not shared a stop at any HS program I could find. They did run in similar circles.

 

[Jimmy Football]

It wouldn’t be a UT coaching search without getting someone at OSU a raise.

Shocking.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I don’t have a problem with any of the Xs and Os from Pruitt. He showed he can scheme up and dominate two quality teams in auburn and Kentucky. Should’ve been a 3rd in South Carolina.

I love what he did with our DBs.

If I understand your position correctly..you think he got tired of trying to motivate guys on this roster and moved on? Do you think that he found it was futile to keep bashing his head on that wall of indifference and started looking forward to next year and getting some guys willing to do it his way?

 

[Nash_Vol97]

I'd hope not but Ross has been underwhelming in the past so we will see. I didnt even watch yesterday.

I haven’t watched since like week 13 lol. Writing was on the wall. Agree on Ross. He hasn’t hired the best front office personnel so I’m not expecting a great hire.

 

[MrVolton]

i'm not sure that's actually the case though, at least above Fulmer's head. new president, new chancellor....same boosters and same big money. no idea how the new pres and chancellor are going to interact with that, and Fulmer is only going to be here for so long.

i think we're in a window where we can get some things fixed, but a lot is going to depend on who some of those 'next' players are going to be....

i think we're still very much in a state of flux in the athletic department. and what we're seeing right now is solely the result of the reaction of the fan base to Currie/Schiano....we have a band aid, and it only lasts as long as Pruitt is successful. and we don't know that he is going to be yet.

we need someone over there that's thinking 5 years down the road, both in men's and women's basketball, and football.

i don't think we have that right now. the change isn't over, it's just on hold.

The powers that be have tried to run UT athletics according to business model; maximum profit for minimum investment. It’s not been about wins, it’s been about making money, and that’s why the previous 3 AD’s were nothing more than beancounters and yes men.

What the whole dern bunch has finally run into is the law of diminishing returns. Hopefully it’s enough to cause some of them to step back a bit and actually let people that know something about athletics run the athletic department.

 

[Kingston Vol]

I looked it up and Grass and Pruitt have not shared a stop at any HS program I could find. They did run in similar circles.

Yeah, I did a quick look after hearing that name and I’d guess Pruitt and his dad both probably know him pretty well. Would also guess Pruitt recruited some of his players once he started at Alabama.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

After the last two games I ended up deciding that any time UT played a decent passing QB, their defense got lit up. Stidham was a basket case and Kentucky couldn't throw the ball all year, so the defense was able to slow them down. The teams may have 'quit' in the last couple games, but it looked more to me like they just didn't have the athletes to stop a decent passing game.

The defense lacked speed at all 3 levels so they couldn't get pressure and they couldn't cover. As a result, they could only slow offenses down that couldn't execute in the passing game. They were disciplined enough to fill run lanes and slow down a 1 dimensional rushing attack. I actually think the QB play in the SEC was exceptionally strong this year so the defense may look a bit better next year just due to some QBs graduating.

Based on this year, it was hard to judge the coaching 1 way or the other. I thought the offensive scheme and play calling was terrible but I don't know that there's a scheme that will work with a bad OL, a QB that is immobile and has poor pocket presence, and slow receivers. That's not a good formula for a spread or pro style offense. The only strength on offense was JG's accuracy / arm strength, big receivers that could make plays down the field, and a pretty good RB. Not much you can do with all that when the OL can't block.

Only fix for all this is recruiting and developing better athletes. Barring the team falling apart (i.e. going 2-9 next year or something ridiculous), Pruitt will get time.

Pretty good analysis..In essence Pruitt couldn't make chicken salad out of crow meat.

 

[ChismsHeadband]

Who else transfers?
What are the plans for OC?
When do we know if Solomon can play in 2019?
Where does Justin Fields end up?
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

Big Gucci Sosa, Chavis, and inVOLuntary have entered their usernames into the transfer portal.

We hire Ryan Gosling in lieu of Kliff Kingsbury. No one will know the difference.

Solomon will play eight games next year regardless of what the NCAA says.

Justin Fields brings his talents to the moon. Goes to the Bad Boy Mowers Gasparilla Bowl next year with a team of 21 other Chinese moon rovers. And beats Nebraska when it's all said and done.

A woodchuck probably couldn't chuck as much wood as the amount of sea shells that Sally sells by the sea shore.

 

[MrVolton]

Trust me, they are entrenched. Still are.

Oh yeah. How telling is it that the acting UT president is the same guy they ran for Gov but failed to even win his primary.

 

[Sleegro]

What’s everyone doing for NYE?

No clue. Trying to find a low key bar in Glendale near my hotel that may have a decent beer selection.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Big Gucci Sosa, Chavis, and inVOLuntary have entered their usernames into the transfer portal.

We hire Ryan Gosling in lieu of Kliff Kingsbury. No one will know the difference.

Solomon will play eight games next year regardless of what the NCAA says.

Justin Fields brings his talents to the moon. Goes to the Bad Boy Mowers Gasparilla Bowl next year with a team of 21 other Chinese moon rovers. And beats Nebraska when it's all said and done.

A woodchuck probably couldn't chuck as much wood as the amount of sea shells that Sally sells by the sea shore.

What da fu..I mean heck..

 

[HankHill]

If I understand your position correctly..you think he got tired of trying to motivate guys on this roster and moved on? Do you think that he found it was futile to keep bashing his head on that wall of indifference and started looking forward to next year and getting some guys willing to do it his way?

I think a big issue was Helton being checked out our offense showed it. It’s not secret that I’m not a big fan of JG but he did some nice things albeit simple against SC and UK. No reason for our offense to just disappear like that.

And i think it’s fair to say that Pruitt has never had to motivate struggling teams and keeping them together and he struggled with that. It’s nothing he can’t learn from and fix. If we lost two close games it is what it is, we weren’t good but we didn’t compete. It falls on the players and the staff as a whole not just not Pruitt.

 

[butchna]

Wish we'd target the Valdosta St HC, but I've already mentioned that.

Kerwin Bell? I do like that he played a long time since 1988...albeit in the CFL mostly but built his coaching career from the bottom up. Major Applewhite’s coaching career irks me because it seems like he was force fed into pretty good jobs solely based on him being a plucky fan favorite as a player.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I think a big issue was Helton being checked out our offense showed it. It’s not secret that I’m not a big fan of JG but he did some nice things albeit simple against SC and UK. No reason for our offense to just disappear like that.

And i think it’s fair to say that Pruitt has never had to motivate struggling teams and keeping them together and he struggled with that. It’s nothing he can’t learn from and fix. If we lost two close games it is what it is, we weren’t good but we didn’t compete. It falls on the players and the staff as a whole not just not Pruitt.

You know what I'm going to say, so I'll just save it..I will agree Helton obviously checked out, which I have to admit is on Pruitt..he gambled on him and lost.