Is the world better off with the nation of Israel?

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DinkinFlicka said:
Within reason, things are not made to be disproven.

Your argument is poor.
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That wasn’t my argument. We went over this a few weeks when he originally posted the quote, which has been disproven plenty of times.

His argument for it being real was Israel made it disappear off the internet😂
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That link seems to agree with what I had been saying... that it was a gross mis-characterization and mis-translation of what Ahmadinejad said.
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While it appears the Times article took some liberties with the translation, I think it can still be interpreted to mean annihilated .... don't you think?
 
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shotgun83 said:
Here ya go.
I thought I would go ahead and help

Taliban

Pakistan and Iran Keep Fueling Taliban Terror Tactics

Treasury sanctions eight for ties to Taliban, Iran militia

Shutting Out Iran Will Make the Afghan War Even Deadlier

Iran Supporting Taliban in Form of Weapons, Funding: Pompeo | TOLOnews

Treasury and the Terrorist Financing Targeting Center Partners Sanction Taliban Facilitators and their Iranian Supporters | U.S. Department of the Treasury

U.S. and Gulf states warn Iran and Taliban with new sanctions

Hamas:

New Hamas leader says Iran is funding the group

What is behind the Hamas-Iran rapprochement?

Iran is funding Hamas's violent campaign at Gaza border, Shin Bet says | The Times of Israel

al-Qaeda

Al Qaeda in Iran

Al-Qaeda Has Rebuilt Itself—With Iran's Help

The Al Qaeda-Iran Connection

Study questions Iran-al Qaeda ties, despite U.S. allegations
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From the very first link from The National Interest...

The National Interest, founded in 1985 by Irving Kristol and Owen Harries, has displayed a remarkable consistency in its approach to foreign policy. It is not, as the inaugural statement declared, about world affairs. It is about American interests. It is guided by the belief that nothing will enhance those interests as effectively as the approach to foreign affairs commonly known as realism—a school of thought traditionally associated with such thinkers and statesmen as Disraeli, Bismarck, and Henry Kissinger.
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shotgun83 said:
I don't think they should lose their jobs. I dont think employers should make you pledge to another country. However the thing about Israel is so polarizing it must be acknowledged that clients especially kids, won't get unfair treatment that could be damaging
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I'm not sure I completely understand what you are trying to say here.
 
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shotgun83 said:
Actually, not all of those are right conservative. Al-Jazeera is on there along with a few others and some journals.

Plus it is widely known that the ayatollah of Iran thinks Israel should be destroyed.. kinda hard to study it from their perspective. It is pretty straightforward
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Widely known based on what... Western media translations of what the Iranians have allegedly said?
 
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Smokey123 said:
That wasn’t my argument. We went over this a few weeks when he originally posted the quote, which has been disproven plenty of times.

His argument for it being real was Israel made it disappear off the internet😂
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When was it disproven? All anyone has said is that it was a mis-translation, at best, or an outright mis-characterization, at worse. Only hardline mainstream Western media and pro-Israeli sources make the claim that Ahmadinejad said wipe Israel off the map.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
While it appears the Times article took some liberties with the translation, I think it can still be interpreted to mean annihilated .... don't you think?
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No, not at all. The alternative quote seems to indicate a natural decline and collapse under its own weight by the state of Israel.

Iran doesn't have a history of attacking Israel.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
When was it disproven? All anyone has said is that it was a mis-translation, at best, or an outright mis-characterization, at worse. Only hardline mainstream Western media and pro-Israeli sources make the claim that Ahmadinejad said wipe Israel off the map.
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Not talking about that quote
 
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Smokey123 said:
That wasn’t my argument. We went over this a few weeks when he originally posted the quote, which has been disproven plenty of times.

His argument for it being real was Israel made it disappear off the internet😂
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Israel now has so much power, that people are losing their jobs and not receiving government benefits if they don’t have a pro-Israeli view...in AMERICA!

If you think for one minute Israel doesn’t have the power to make things go away on the internet that puts them in a bad light...you are a simpleton...

How Israel and its partisans work to censor the Internet
 
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Pacer92 said:
Israel now has so much power, that people are losing their jobs and not receiving government benefits if they don’t have a pro-Israeli view...in AMERICA!

If you think for one minute Israel doesn’t have the power to make things go away on the internet that puts them in a bad light...you are a simpleton...

How Israel and its partisans work to censor the Internet
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When did I ever say I think that? If your argument for something being real is bcuz it got censored off the internet(proof?), you may need to find a new argument.

Sorry, I’m not allowed to believe your article because it’s coming from a biased source and so clearly it’s not credible at all. Am I right??😂
 
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Smokey123 said:
When did I ever say I think that? If your argument for something being real is bcuz it got censored off the internet(proof?), you may need to find a new argument.

Sorry, I’m not allowed to believe your article because it’s coming from a biased source and so clearly it’s not credible at all. Am I right??😂
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It’s biased? Wtf kind of response is that? It doesn’t fit your belief system, so you whine about something being fake or bias without reading anything antithetical...

The article I linked shows just how much power Israel exudes on such sites as Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc...not to mention western media. This is no conspiracy, yet facts....from multiple quotes and sites...many of whom are Israeli. There are a lot of Israeli’s and worldwide Jews who don’t support Israel policies...unlike most Americans, who blindly support them come Hell or high water. I guess Sharon was right...they do control America...

But, when your sole argument is to cry “fake news”....it’s comical! Bet you’d get an atta boy from Donald Trump himself...Lol!

You just keep doing you, though...👍🏻
 
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