Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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DD4ME said:
Umm unless it is to discuss him coming here or laughing at UGA's luck can we save the transfer debate for the real dead season? Currently we have recruiting, OC's, Coyotes, and Cam Newton on the schedule.
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and for the record, after last night, i'm ok with the panthers looking for another QB. i think Cam has peaked as QB and he is just what he is at this point. if he's not physically able to affect the game as a runner, it affects everything else he does negatively....and he's still just not a very good pocket passer. he's gotten better, his accuracy is better this year, but you saw some of hte throws he missed last night....were just BAAAAD.....

new owner, the coach is gonna get fired at hte end of the year.....it may just be time to blow some of ths up and start over.
 
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HankHill said:
Is that a bad thing? If someone is changing jobs in hopes to better themselves/family then they should.

99% of the time company’s, corporations, schools, etc aren’t going to be loyal to an employee..they are about the bottom dollar. Word of advice never choose loyalty to a job over betterment of yourself/family.
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It’s not what I am seeing. I am only in a small office, but turnover in a lower paying job is unbelievable. I don’t think people leave after one or two days because they got another job. They just don’t like it. It appears some would rather not work at all than work an hourly job. It’s also about doing the same job for a period of time- I think attention spans have changed.

Like I said, I would love to see a study on it. But you always have an answer, Hank.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
NFL players are under contract, they can't just up and leave while under contract.

What if he goes to another school and gets beat out? Should he just be able to pack up and try another team? When does some of the responsibility fall on the player? He did choose to go to a team with freshman QB that beat out another pretty dang good upperclassmen. He should have to bare some responsibility for make g the choice to go to GA to begin with. If you open this up for immediate eligibility for transfers without a legitimate hardship reason, it will be the biggest cluster fudge that college football has ever seen.
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Pro players/coaches are completely different. They are under a mutually bargained contract. The player/coach can ask,change,alter etc what is being offered to them. A scholarship for a player isn’t like that. Especially when a coach can give you a git shirt when you’re under that scholarship, for simply not being good enough. Especially when a new coach comes in like Vitello did that to several baseball players. It happens to players in every sport.

I am all for open transfer, if another school is willing give you a scholarship then absolutely take it if you aren’t happy where you are. The NCAA is getting there by developing the transfer data base which will help a lot. This is what i would push for:

-players can enter the transfer data base at anytime (let’s other schools know they are wanting to transfer and seeking a scholarship)
-players cannot transfer or talk to other schools in season. Say like February1st - August1st would be an open window.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
True just saying Fields Isn't catching hate unlike Eason because of race. Pretty clear difference how those two families handled pending transfer
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good. hope dad has some more tricks up his sleeve. and can't wait to show them off. do yo thang papa fields!!!
 
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VolGee4 said:
It’s not what I am seeing. I am only in a small office, but turnover in a lower paying job is unbelievable. I don’t think people leave after one or two days because they got another job. They just don’t like it. It appears some would rather not work at all than work an hourly job. It’s also about doing the same job for a period of time- I think attention spans have changed.

Like I said, I would love to see a study on it. But you always have an answer, Hank.
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I agree with you. People are definitely changing jobs more. I’m asking do you think it’s a bad thing for the people as a whole.
 
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HankHill said:
Well when you’re getting called N***** in 2018 at your home stadium especially... it’s a problem. Their fans are also making an ass out of themselves bashing fields while wishing Eason luck and talking about how much of a class act he was.
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I certainly agree, but my point is he is using this in order to get a transfer without having to sit out. We know he is not transferring because of that, he is transferring because of playing time. Just transfer, don't try to find or pull up something that happened months ago to use to your advantage. Has he used his redshirt? If not, he's good to go...
 
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InVOLuntary said:
NFL players are under contract, they can't just up and leave while under contract.

What if he goes to another school and gets beat out? Should he just be able to pack up and try another team? When does some of the responsibility fall on the player? He did choose to go to a team with freshman QB that beat out another pretty dang good upperclassmen. He should have to bare some responsibility for make g the choice to go to GA to begin with. If you open this up for immediate eligibility for transfers without a legitimate hardship reason, it will be the biggest cluster fudge that college football has ever seen.
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Yeah I think they should have to sit out a year unless it is a real hardship.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Stop. Eason was quiet and didn't disrupt locker room along with his family. Fields and family have been more vocal than they should have been in season. And it wasn't because someone called him that name
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🙄🙄 they are both transferring and no one knows what going on in that locker room. I’m sure Eason and family weren’t happy go lucky watching their son/self get his job taken.
 
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HankHill said:
I agree with you. People are definitely changing jobs more. I’m asking do you think it’s a bad thing for the people as a whole.
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If you are legitimately earning more or taking a job that you like better, then it’s fine. Based on my experience, I just think some young people would rather not work than work a job they are indifferent about. Or, they are bouncing for a lower or the same pay just to do something different because they get bored after a year.
 
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HankHill said:
🙄🙄 they are both transferring and no one knows what going on in that locker room. I’m sure Eason and family weren’t happy go lucky watching their son/self get his job taken.
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Was it a constant talking point every week? Was he caught on camera mad about just handing off like Fields was on the clip released yesterday? No he supported Fromm. They were handled differently.

I also understand Fields was lied to but he was also dumb enough to think he would beat out a freshman all American that showed out in the national title game. He should have never went there.

I'm enjoying UGA havingbad press but I think there are better ways to have handled on UGA staff and fields side all yr
 
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HankHill said:
Pro players/coaches are completely different. They are under a mutually bargained contract. The player/coach can ask,change,alter etc what is being offered to them. A scholarship for a player isn’t like that. Especially when a coach can give you a git shirt when you’re under that scholarship, for simply not being good enough. Especially when a new coach comes in like Vitello did that to several baseball players. It happens to players in every sport.
And a LOI isn't a contract?

I am all for open transfer, if another school is willing give you a scholarship then absolutely take it if you aren’t happy where you are. The NCAA is getting there by developing the transfer data base which will help a lot. This is what i would push for:

-players can enter the transfer data base at anytime (let’s other schools know they are wanting to transfer and seeking a scholarship)
-players cannot transfer or talk to other schools in season. Say like February1st - August1st would be an open window.[
So you would like to burn college football to the group? That's completely assanine and would ruin college football. Just like the one and done in basketball, fans will never be able to identify with a team/players. As soon as a coach says something mean, a player will pack his bags and put his name on the list.
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Just like in this case, Fields is upset he wasn't handed the starting position. He was disgruntled because he was made to earn it and couldn't. For the first time in his life he wasn't the best QB on the field and he's having trouble accepting that. Now he's going to take his ball and go home. I hope wherever he goes he looks and finds a team where he can get the starting QB slot with minimal effort.[/QUOTE]
 
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HankHill said:
Pro players/coaches are completely different. They are under a mutually bargained contract. The player/coach can ask,change,alter etc what is being offered to them. A scholarship for a player isn’t like that. Especially when a coach can give you a git shirt when you’re under that scholarship, for simply not being good enough. Especially when a new coach comes in like Vitello did that to several baseball players. It happens to players in every sport.

I am all for open transfer, if another school is willing give you a scholarship then absolutely take it if you aren’t happy where you are. The NCAA is getting there by developing the transfer data base which will help a lot. This is what i would push for:

-players can enter the transfer data base at anytime (let’s other schools know they are wanting to transfer and seeking a scholarship)
-players cannot transfer or talk to other schools in season. Say like February1st - August1st would be an open window.
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There has to be an opportunity cost for transferring. If not, you'll end up with larger schools using smaller ones as de facto farm teams.
 
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butchna said:
With media coverage? Or recounted story. And it’s a “hardship” because these goobers exist on a campus of 30,000 students?
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He was harrassing fields during the game. Then some other student posted it on fb, caught wind. The assailant (uga baseball player) gets kicked off team and the rest is history...
 
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