Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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butchna said:
In your analogy it would be like the university president locking up the assistant AD or lower. Doesn’t happen. The only value is keeping assistant’s from lateral moves...not ascension. Doesn’t happen...because it’s stupid.
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It’s not stupid, depending on the circumstances. I agree with you that you’re typically going to want to hire ambitious people who will want to keep progressing in their careers, and putting an impediment in their way of doing that (via buyout) may turn them off, but it’s no different than Iowa State locking up Matt Campbell with a huge buyout to keep him from taking a blue blood type job. If the school has the leverage, or can buy the leverage with a big enough salary, then absolutely it could be sensible for all parties to agreee to a buyout for leaving to go anywhere at all.
 
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85SugarVol said:
*** Public Service Announcement ***

For a few of you on here:
In an RPO Offense (Run-Pass Option), the QB is NOT the "Run" option.

Carry on.
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College RPO offenses are predicated on the threat of the QB running or else it is just a play action pass. The NFL does it less, but the RPO is built around the QB holding the ball, just like normal option football. The difference in the RPO is he can decide to throw a quick pass as well.
 
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If I'm Pruitt (which I'm not haha) I would want experience calling plays as a primary trait in this hire. If the rumors that he wanted Freeze last year but Skankbag wouldn't allow it, then Helton would do in a pinch. It didn't work as expected. No problem. Lets use a mulligan and move on. What I think should be done is go get a name that will help in recruiting AND has experience in play calling. That being said....................................














I bet they promote Friend.
 
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BJHSVol said:
Might even break into top 100. But if Pruitt wants to run a ball control offense total ranking is an overrated stat. Tennessees offensive efficiency this year is in the 80s. Better execution gets it in the top 50s and we're a better LSU.
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This. Efficiency metrics are what matter. We don’t need the most yards or most points in the country; we need yards per play.
 
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bignewt said:
He can be if he pulls back from the rb and doesn't like the downfield option though, correct?
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If he's pulling it from the RB, he already likes the pass option. If the QB still ends up running, then that's just the play breaking down and a scramble by the QB
 
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InVOLuntary said:
ban worthy imo.
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SeanJean said:
College RPO offenses are predicated on the threat of the QB running or else it is just a play action pass. The NFL does it less, but the RPO is built around the QB holding the ball, just like normal option football. The difference in the RPO is he can decide to throw a quick pass as well.
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The difference is in how the line blocks. The RPO is a quick throw, so the line can run block without worrying about a lineman downfield penalty. A play action pass the line still pass blocks.
 
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volatil said:
I’m not a fan of either.

If he promotes Friend it better work
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Honestly, I don’t believe it matters much.

Pruitt has proven he’s going to meddle in the offense and mandate a power running system. Might as well hire the guy that gets along with him and can work to operate as efficiently as possible under those guidelines.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
It’s pretty interesting that many of you would be OK with Osovet but the idea of Friend and promoting Osovet to QB coach/co-OC is a nonstarter.
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I think it has to do with more with the brand of offense each is perceived to run. And, I'll go on record as saying i'm against any OC that doesn't have a decent amount of experience calling plays at the P5, or NFL level. TN should not be a proving ground for upstart coaches. That means I'm against Osovet and Friend to some extent.
 
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BJHSVol said:
The difference is in how the line blocks. The RPO is a quick throw, so the line can run block without worrying about a lineman downfield penalty. A play action pass the line still pass blocks.
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Yep, true. It's also the routes and the "options" the QB has, but yeah, the play is illegal unless the OL blocks correctly.
 
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Skizer41 said:
If I'm Pruitt (which I'm not haha) I would want experience calling plays as a primary trait in this hire. If the rumors that he wanted Freeze last year but Skankbag wouldn't allow it, then Helton would do in a pinch. It didn't work as expected. No problem. Lets use a mulligan and move on. What I think should be done is go get a name that will help in recruiting AND has experience in play calling. That being said....................................














I bet they promote Friend.
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Pruitt IMO
 
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drylo said:
It’s not stupid, depending on the circumstances. I agree with you that you’re typically going to want to hire ambitious people who will want to keep progressing in their careers, and putting an impediment in their way of doing that (via buyout) may turn them off, but it’s no different than Iowa State locking up Matt Campbell with a huge buyout to keep him from taking a blue blood type job. If the school has the leverage, or can buy the leverage with a big enough salary, then absolutely it could be sensible for all parties to agreee to a buyout for leaving to go anywhere at all.
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It’s VERY different! Matt Campbell’s a HC! The top dog of your program! Truth or not, no AD worth their salt concedes that another job is an ascension...not lateral move. It’s why we paid buyouts to Louisiana Tech and Cincy...and UGA/TN didn’t to Bama. It’s also why we won’t be getting $800 k to help pay off Butch.
 
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I recommend everyone take any and all info/speculation put out there during this search with a grain of salt but, for those who might be new here, here are a few posters who have proven to either pass along reliable info or actually have it:

@HankHill (like his opinions or not, he called his shot last offseason and was as reliable with info as anyone)
@LA Vol (Reliable, consistent info bringer)
@Ron Swanson (bringer of all things TOS)
@Atlanta VOL (I will bear hug this person, and maybe fight back a tear or two, if I ever meet them)
@matts42012 (oldie but a goodie)
@Freak (I mean...it's his site, so...)

People NOT to trust:

Anyone who just joined the site and claims to have inside info...they're all trolls. Every. Single. One.

Anyone who doesn't drink coffee. They're not to be trusted. Ever.
 
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SeanJean said:
College RPO offenses are predicated on the threat of the QB running or else it is just a play action pass. The NFL does it less, but the RPO is built around the QB holding the ball, just like normal option football. The difference in the RPO is he can decide to throw a quick pass as well.
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No. That is "Read Option", not "Run-Pass Option".

We ran Read Option successfully with Dobbs, where he would pull the ball out of the RB's belly when the DE crashed down.
 
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