The Men that Killed UT Football

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MSCE09 said:
Fulmer's last few teams were more competetive and than we've been since. Pulling the trigger on Fulmer killed the program more than anything. UT is not a place that should win 10 a year. Not in a conference with LSU, Bama, Florida and Georgia programs being good and with more fertile recruiting grounds. What Fulmer was doing in the early 2000s, while not equal to the late 90s was still outstanding with our inherent disadvantage in the conference. And firing a legend, no matter if he wasn't what he had been, really poisoned the well for getting another high level coach to take the job. We picked up Kiffin as a stepping stone and a bunch of guys whose plateaus were mid-majors.
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I'd definitely say fulmer isn't to blame but it was absolutely the right decision to replace him when we did. of our last 4 seasons under him were sub .500. That's after having a ton of time to establish himself and bring in his type of players. The game had passed him by. Could you imagine saban or urban Meyer having a 4 year span where they lost more games than they won? Me either. Stop defending his coaching record. It was good in the 90's. But fell considerable afterwards.
But it's definitely not his fault. Now...I think it's absolutely ridiculous to have allowed him to make this most recent hire. Hiring a football coach is absolutely the most important part of an ads job. And how in the world a guy that was fired a decade early for not being able to keep up with the game made sent to hand the keys to...I'll never understand.
 
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Rudy123 said:
When a coach wants to win at any legal means, he will take risks
For instance, Saban played the 2nd string QB last season against Clemson and they won
Pruitt should have played Keller more often; especially when it was obvious that JG wasn't getting it done
Pruitt did not want to bruise JG fragile ego so,he continued to,play him
Pruitt is NOT the coach to lead us to the promise land...... Does not really want to win
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Well for starters we will know by the end of recruiting and next year’s record as indicators of if he really is ALL IN...a 6-6 record next year and the hot seat heats up in year 3. That will be the critical year...
 
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fatal1 said:
I have a question for some of you guys why do you blame fulmer for the down fall of tenn football the man coached 16 years and only had 2 losing seasons. he grew up in Tennessee played for Tennessee and bleeds orange he has given his all for tenn and yet some of you blame hi for every thing wrong with the program. its been 10 years since he was coach at tenn so put it to rest.
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fulmer hired this bum when mike leach wanted the job
 
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rolling_coyote said:
My list:

Hamilton
Hart
Curry
Haslam(s)
Cheek
Dipetrio
Kiffin
Dooley
Jones
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Curry a little high; he was just a Haslam puppet. I would rank Dooley over Kiffin. Dipetrio’s letter re Davenport was an embarrassment (not that I liked Davenport that much, but come on, if you can’t be classy, at least be professional!). Only question, do the Haslams belong at the top as being responsible for inflicting Hamilton, Hart, Cheek, ad nauseam on the University?
 
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chattavol420 said:
I'd definitely say fulmer isn't to blame but it was absolutely the right decision to replace him when we did. of our last 4 seasons under him were sub .500. That's after having a ton of time to establish himself and bring in his type of players. The game had passed him by. Could you imagine saban or urban Meyer having a 4 year span where they lost more games than they won? Me either. Stop defending his coaching record. It was good in the 90's. But fell considerable afterwards.
But it's definitely not his fault. Now...I think it's absolutely ridiculous to have allowed him to make this most recent hire. Hiring a football coach is absolutely the most important part of an ads job. And how in the world a guy that was fired a decade early for not being able to keep up with the game made sent to hand the keys to...I'll never understand.
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He basically got fired because Ainge didn't recover fast enough in 2005, maybe because he got adicted to the pain meds like millions of other Americans and because they whiffed on a QB to replace Ainge in 2008. You don't think a Taj Boyd led 2009-2011/2012 would have not won more games than the real teams did? LSU/Bama, Florida/Ohio State have a lot more advantages than we have in recruiting but honestly I don't think those guys would have multiple bad seasons like that becuase they would leave first instead of trying to fix it.
 
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Might as well add

Gruden to the list somewhere for toying with the Vols.....never coming here....and all the insiders that got many at Volnation to believe he was.....

Expectations and a quick fix....LOL....
 
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MSCE09 said:
whoever hurt Rohan Davey.
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Now someone is doing the critical thinking. Add the ref who called Jabar Gafneys no catch a catch. Jay Cutler. Had he not been at Vandy our streak over those busters would have been longer.
 
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MSCE09 said:
The guy that has won at every school he has been at before and after? Yeah he was to blame. 10 win season at Bowling Green and 3 consecutive bowl seasons at WAKE FOREST. Better coach than we've hired since.
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AD would not wait for Fulmer to recruit the type of players for Klawsons type of offense - Tajh Boyd was committed as well as a few others -- someone wouldnt wait or give him time to make it work -- who might that have been ?
 
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FortSanders said:
What did Lane Kiffin do?
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Ed Oregeron i hate worse. That guy was using our phones after they took the USC job telling the early enrollee recruits to turn around dont arrive on campus or that starts the use of their eligibility. Brandon Willis comes to mind who was enroute and got the call from Orgeron on the University of Tennessee issued phone and Willis turned around over the mountain between North Carolina and Knoxville. Granted Orgeron wasnt alone im sure Kiffin told him to call the recruits they wanted. However at least use your own cell. How dirty to negative recruit a school with their own phone.
 
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By the way i should have added Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams and Tommy Tuberville. We wanted both those guys and what they did in 04 together would have been behind our O line. Granted we like Auburn could have been screwed by the media putting Oklahoma and USC ahead of us but unbeaten our fall from power wouldnt have happened.
 
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Rudy123 said:
When a coach wants to win at any legal means, he will take risks
For instance, Saban played the 2nd string QB last season against Clemson and they won
Pruitt should have played Keller more often; especially when it was obvious that JG wasn't getting it done
Pruitt did not want to bruise JG fragile ego so,he continued to,play him
Pruitt is NOT the coach to lead us to the promise land...... Does not really want to win
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There are a lot of dumb post, but this may top them all.
 
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