Tim Irwin on pruitt

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Cartervol said:
Who isn't on the fence with Pruitt? We've not seen enough to know squat. He is right about the team not really improving on much all year. Looked like a rerun most weeks.
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I disagree though, our young defensive backs have improved tremendously from WVU to now. Thompson and Taylor particularly. It wasn't enough to beat Vandy, ok maybe. And possibly the team hasn't improved particularly well, but individual improvement is for certain.

Also in the meat of our schedule, the toughest part of our season we came out with wins over Auburn and Kentucky, played Georgia to the 4th and should have beaten SC. I'm not looking for silver linings but middle of the season schedule has been extremely disappointing the past few seasons.
 
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I agree with his assessment. The biggest disappointment with Pruitt was the lack of progress during the season. For that reason, I would give him a grade of "C" at best. I really had high hopes before the season started. Well, I guess the team just needs some new recruits and work like heck! Foolmer might be co-head coach next year.
 
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therealitytheory said:
We played better in our first game than we played in our last.
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Guarentano hadn't been hit as many times, Trey Smith was doing his job. Kongbo's knee was still intact. Lots of variables. Jennings and Callaway both playing hurt yesterday. I don't know how Guarantano isn't in traction at this stage of the season. <blue> Not going to a bowl probably saved his life.</blue>
 
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onevol74 said:
Anyone who says that we have made improvement because we did not win any conference games last year and we won 2 this year has to realize that that 2017 team was not a 0-8 team on paper. They quit on their coach and for good reason. I do not see the record of 2 wins as an improvement.

I agree that is not Pruitt’s fault but this team looks just as bad in November as it did in September.
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Good point. UF, SC, and Kentucky all could have easily been Ws last year, and the team had quit by the time they played Mizzou, LSU, and Vandy (though with LSU it likely wouldn't have mattered either way).
 
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KBVol said:
Anybody paying ANY attention whatsoever has to be incredibly discouraged. We’re in another 3 year process of firing the current head coach who clearly can’t get it done here...just a matter of time. Team can’t block, tackle, throw, catch or run and the attitude/culture around the program is ish. There’s zero reason for any optimism going forward. Next year will be every bit as bad as this year if not worse.
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This is what everyone needs to realize. I think a strong offseason in the S&C department will help the Oline, but they will still be marginal at best.... Chandler is a good back, but doesn't appear to be an every down type.... Jordan is average at best..... receivers are big but lack speed..... and JG needs to get a lot better at a lot of things. The D? Who knows, but I don't see a pass rush or dominant Dline on the way.... or Lbs with physicality and speed....it's a complete rebuild.... and it won't happen overnight
 
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Took a 4-8 team that was lucky to win 4 (GT game) and turned them into a 5-7 team that should've won 6 (SC game) and beat two ranked teams. The offense was bad, but was improved from last season despite the poor o-line. The defense was bad, but improved from last season and had some strong games. You can't say Pruitt is going to get UT back, but there were enough signs during the season to say he's got it headed in a better direction. His recruiting is also looking promising with him potentially landing some big time players that UGA and Alabama want. Those last two games left a bad feeling about the season, and for good reason, but it doesn't make sense to get all down on Pruitt at this point. For whatever it's worth, the program is better off than they were last year. Butch would have struggled to win 3 with this team.
 
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Practically every new coach has a bump in the enthusiasm with his team during the first year. Players don’t quit cause they want to impress the new coach cause they know he’s there for the rest of their career. Every new coach that is except Pruitt.

Now, I watched these players lay down last year so I’m placing the majority of the blame there. That said, a new coach has to show something. My first impression from Pruitt’s first yr is he must have been real impressed with Sabans onside kick vs Clemson in the 2016 NC game. Surprised he didn’t try one more yesterday. Other than that, the season was pretty vanilla with a couple of big plays, most he admitted later he didn’t like.
 
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wmcovol said:
Practically every new coach has a bump in the enthusiasm with his team during the first year. Players don’t quit cause they want to impress the new coach cause they know he’s there for the rest of their career. Every new coach that is except Pruitt.

Now, I watched these players lay down last year so I’m placing the majority of the blame there. That said, a new coach has to show something. My first impression from Pruitt’s first yr is he must have been real impressed with Sabans onside kick vs Clemson in the 2016 NC game. Surprised he didn’t try one more yesterday. Other than that, the season was pretty vanilla with a couple of big plays, most he admitted later he didn’t like.
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He also inherited a situation unlike most, this team was soft as a cupcake and thin as paper depth. The previous coach wanted smaller players and let them lift weights on their own. He felt it more important for the players to like the S@C than get results. He thought he could win in the sec with finesse football schemes and zone blocking spread crap with lighter players. Pruitt wasn't going to fix that in 1 year, Saban got 6 wins his first year at bama before he turned it around and many were hollering to fire him after season 1 as well. Pruitt didn't inherit any better, it's going to be a recruiting and getting in the S@C room. There is NO EXCUSE for our team to ever be getting pushed around with the facilities we have. Give Pruitt a little time folks he and this staff knows what it takes to win in this league and it's hard to make some players better upfront that for all purposes hit their ceiling long ago. We need jimmy and joes that have the talent and desire to play in this league and the rest need to go to the house. GBO!!!!
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Good point. UF, SC, and Kentucky all could have easily been Ws last year, and the team had quit by the time they played Mizzou, LSU, and Vandy (though with LSU it likely wouldn't have mattered either way).
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But Georgia Tech and UMASS could’ve just as easily been Ls last year also.
 
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onevol74 said:
Been saying this for a while. Next year will be worse. Especially if there is a significant exodus that many are predicting. We will be starting new and younger players with little SEC experience. Pruitt should have done a better job of developing what he has instead of running people off. If he does not understand that then we hired the wrong coach.
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Who has he run off? Only two players left the team when he was hired. Have some left today?
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
Seems reasonable.

I don't see how anyone can reasonably defend getting beat 88-30 by Missouri and Vanderbilt. Losing is one thing, getting humiliated is another.

Especially when the head coach is a supposed defensive guru.
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A defensive Guru has to have players . And talent ain’t the only thing they have to have. Pride, heart, desire . This team lacks in all categories
 
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You can't go to Wal-Mart and buy players Irwin knew or should have known what we had. I said we would win 4 or 5 games this year. I'm disappointed in yesterdays performance mainly after we scored starting the second half. The long run was the best blocked play all year! I had to scratch my head on the next series after the missed field goal. We ran the ball on 1st down for a big gain then tried to throw it the next 7 plays. It went straight down hill from there. Candy took the Mo and It really looked like for the first time this year the quitters quit. We got to weed out the quitters to ever get this thing turned around. Players that quit against Candy have no place wearing the Orange uniform. Hopefully we got a handful
that understands what wearing that uniform means.

I do believe Pruitt will right the ship but it ain't going to fun till he does.
 
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LocoVol said:
Though he’s not bocking and tackling he cannot give him a passing grade. Good coached teams improve thru the year and we did not!
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We could have easily list to Auburn & Kentucky again. Could have been worse

Could have played Keller and we beat USC & Vandy and be 7- 5
 
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onevol74 said:
Anyone who says that we have made improvement because we did not win any conference games last year and we won 2 this year has to realize that that 2017 team was not a 0-8 team on paper. They quit on their coach and for good reason. I do not see the record of 2 wins as an improvement.

I agree that is not Pruitt’s fault but this team looks just as bad in November as it did in September.
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It's part Pruitt's fault, don't kid yourself
 
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AustinMem said:
I am ignoring Missouri and Vandy games from an X&O's coaching perspective. More worried about ability to motivate and get buy in.
I absolutely believe a number of players quit on the season because 1) they wanted to go home and chill, not play a bowl. 2) they didnt buy in. Being told during the season that they sucked and that Pruitt would go out and get better likely didnt help.
There are a number of damning "reports" of lack of caring and motivation amongst members of the team, even dating back to prior to the past 2 games. See Crouch's thread on his comments. That speaks in part to the coaches' ability to motivate. It also speaks to the "culture" problem that has gone on for a few years now.
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(Quoting your post, but replying to many)

When it comes to unmotivated players and coaches' "failure" to motivate them, I'm not sure that doing CPR on a corpse does much good.

If they don't care, no one can make them care 95% of the time. This isn't Hollywood.
 
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