Tennessee is going NOWHERE with JG

#77
#77
teeball said:
I'm finally on board with all the JG critics. Even though he has had one or two competent games his overall play is abysmal. He's slow, slower and slowest in almost everything he does. Tennessee must find another QB for next year. In my 50 years of watching Tennessee football I can honestly say I've rarely seen a QB as mediocre as JG. Hopefully the new kid out of Florida will honor his commitment and enroll early. Lord knows we need a mobile QB with quick feet and instincts.
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Pruitt needs to be telling him that he has a better than 50% chance to start as a frosh.
 
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vol9799 said:
If you think JG can be a winning QB in the SEC, you are already on the wrong side of the door looking at something other than this game. JG is tough and has a strong arm. That is it. None of the intangibles required to be a good QB.
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A strong arm??? He literally under throws every single deep ball. Not once has he led a receiver on a deep ball.
 
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sjt18 said:
Ummm… you don't know that. His skill set is very limited. VERY limited. It isn't limited by his physical ability but his decision making and understanding of defenses. His improvement in that regard over this season has been minimal. Teams have figured him out. Vandy without great athletes... Mizzou without great athletes... had no trouble defending him. They watched his film and knew if they denied the 50/50 underthrown balls and then contained the check downs... they could get UT's O off the field. The coaches were limited by the things they knew he couldn't do.

Also, UT ran better in those games and the D played well. Any other time, you'd be talking about it being a team game... except when JG looks good then he was the reason UT won.

I'm sure you'll disagree... but throwing the ball up for grabs isn't a particularly difficult thing to do for a player with a college arm.

He needs to improve and this game made me question even more whether he has the ability to improve to a point of playing at an SEC level. I hope he does. The team and program needs him. But what he did today was awful.... it looked like a significant regression.
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Lol. KC got his chance against Missouri and he sucked terribly. When the team plays well, everyone looks good. When they dont everyone looks bad. The fact is JG played well against AU and UK and helped us win. Has he played bad this year? Absolutely. Until we have a competent OL, no QB on our roster is going to play great week to week. Your constant rumblings about what you think the coaches know is as hilarious as your crtiques of his abilities.

He absolutely played horrible today. But so did the entire team. There have been 2 times this year that the OL and team played well. Auburn and Kentucky. Funny how those 2 games, JG and the offense looked good in both. We can go back and forth all you want. But the fact remains we dont have a Tua, Kyler Murray, Drew Locke or Jake Fromm. Our OL is the worst of all P5 teams likely. We have a rookie OC. A new scheme. KC is on his 3rd OC since coming to TN. This is the first year he has had a QB coach. All these facts add up to what we have now.
 
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Finally, someone agrees with me.

No way to know for sure but I am confident that we beat USC with Keller
Thus go to a bowl game
 
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Thank God someone with cojones steps up and calls out Pruitt and staff! UK and Auburn were luck for JG. What I can't comprehend is why JG's not benched. For my 30 years as a VOL teams like UK, Vandy, Mizzou would be gimmes. this is how far the football program has fallen.

I've lived in Texas for awhile and see better QB play from my kid's 3rd string high school QBs (Westlake's produced Drew Brees, and Nick Foles and the current Texas QB)

Where's Pruitt's Alabama like defense? This team is a joke, albeit a Butch Jone's joke. Barely beat Charlotte? Throttled by GA, FLA, BAMA ....not even competitive .....If Pruitt and staff can't motive or coach in year one we have another Dooley to fire in 3 years.
 
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teeball said:
I'm finally on board with all the JG critics. Even though he has had one or two competent games his overall play is abysmal. He's slow, slower and slowest in almost everything he does. Tennessee must find another QB for next year. In my 50 years of watching Tennessee football I can honestly say I've rarely seen a QB as mediocre as JG. Hopefully the new kid out of Florida will honor his commitment and enroll early. Lord knows we need a mobile QB with quick feet and instincts.
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Duh!!!!! I am by no,means knowledgeable about football as some of you guys are BUT for se reason, I can a good, talented player that has IT and a player who has reached his peak and won't improve anymore
Next season is gone already, because Pruitt will stick with JG even with an 0 - 12 record
 
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C-south said:
But JG was supposedly a dual threat. He’s slow as molasses. No pocket presence whatsoever.
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The DT label was put on him to help his recruiting rankings. At least thats what I have heard. But there is no way anyone can logically compare any modern UT QB to the ones under Fulmer. Its just unfair.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Lol. KC got his chance against Missouri and he sucked terribly.
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Sucked worse than 3 drives for negative yardage? Worse than the anemic performance we saw today? KC stinking doesn't make JG one iota better. Neither are SEC quality QB's. I would love to think JG can become one... but there is little evidence that he is after two seasons.

Your constant rumblings about what you think the coaches know is as hilarious as your crtiques of his abilities.
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Attacking me is not a refutation of what I've posted. And when and where have I claimed to know what the coaches know? I know what I know... and see what my OPEN EYES see.

He absolutely played horrible today. But so did the entire team. There have been 2 times this year that the OL and team played well. Auburn and Kentucky. Funny how those 2 games, JG and the offense looked good in both. We can go back and forth all you want. But the fact remains we dont have a Tua, Kyler Murray, Drew Locke or Jake Fromm. Our OL is the worst of all P5 teams likely. We have a rookie OC. A new scheme. KC is on his 3rd OC since coming to TN. This is the first year he has had a QB coach. All these facts add up to what we have now.
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Thanks for acknowledging that UT doesn't have a good QB. I've agreed frequently that the OL is a problem. But you can see some improvement over the course of the year in pass protection. JG wasn't under constant pressure today... so what's the excuse for what we saw now?

JG still limits what the coaches can do... Yes... you can tell that too because I know you've watched enough football to see what it looks like when a QB's decision making burns D's on blitzes... when QB's make a living down the middle of the field... when QB's release the ball quickly and lead a receiver into a big play. You named a few guys who do that well. Watch some of their games and compare the playcalling to that of UT. Those OC's trust their QB to make good decisions and deliver the ball on time to all parts of the field. It isn't like you have to sit in coach's meetings to see that they don't trust JG to make certain plays/decisions.
 
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Time after time I've seen the defense in the right play and the player take a bad angle, miss the tackle, or just lack speed enough to get there. On two of the first three VU TD's we had LBs just too slow to cover.

On offense thought JG was good enough to get us respectable. I think we've seen his ceiling and it isn't SEC adequate if we want to be competitive with the upper echelon.

This offseason may well require some really tough moves by CJP regarding players and maybe staff. I'm really pretty depressed. Not so much by the record but by the lack of fire by the players. Oh well, BB and SB may pick us up.
 
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docfarmer said:
Shrout must not be the answer....surely hecwould be playing...
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Not necessarily true. Pruitt probably has settled on JG at QB for next season and by pulling him, he might hurt his fragile ego, which could affect his play next season also
Better QB MIGHT be sitting on the bench. Never know
We all wanted Peterman but that turned out badly
We all wanted Dobbs and that did work out well
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
The DT label was put on him to help his recruiting rankings. At least thats what I have heard. But there is no way anyone can logically compare any modern UT QB to the ones under Fulmer. Its just unfair.
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Dobbs is worlds better. Worley was better. Crompton was better. He’s the worst starting qb since Fulmer left.
 
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JG is not the greatest in the world. But he just does not have any consistent blocking at all. The offensive line is a joke. I think Tennessee could win with him if there were good players around him. Unfortunately, that is not going to happen anytime soon.
 
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vol9799 said:
If you think JG can be a winning QB in the SEC, you are already on the wrong side of the door looking at something other than this game. JG is tough and has a strong arm. That is it. None of the intangibles required to be a good QB.
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I am not so sure about this strong arm thing anymore with all those long ball floaters we see. Smh
 
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