Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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SweetasSoda said:
This sounds like all of the posts about Dobb's weaknesses. Some ignore how well he has done at certain things to get the stats or worse blame him for everything wrong on the offense... Can't we celebrate how much he has improved without going over and over what he's not improved on?
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As well it should. Dobbs had weaknesses that he overcame and got better. Some... he didn't. One of the things both struggle(d) with is anticipating throwing lanes. Neither manage(d) the pocket particularly well.

By year 3 of Dobbs' career he still had some issues... but through a lot of hard work he was beyond where JG is.
 
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VolsnCards5 said:
Prediction: Darrell Taylor has a good game Saturday. So good that some of our posters start to worry he might go pro.
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DT has had 2 outstanding games then has disappeared in the other 9. Even if he has another outstanding game against Vandy he needs to have at least start having just good games more consistently before thinking about going pro.
 
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VolDC said:
You may be right, but I doubt it. He could essentially have a blood clot break loose in his leg and hit his lungs. He would be dead within a minute. That's how serious it is.
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Don't get me wrong, I highly doubt he plays again. And the situation you stated falls in line with what I was saying, because in that situation no medical staff would clear him to play if the blood clotting was still an issue.

I'm more emphasizing that Trey is probably going to try and exhaust every possible treatment option at his disposal to see if they can correct the issue well enough to get him back on the field. I just feel really awful for the guy because you know he wants to be out there, he's insanely talented, and he's spent his entire life working and honing his craft.
 
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sjt18 said:
As well it should. Dobbs had weaknesses that he overcame and got better. Some... he didn't. One of the things both struggle(d) with is anticipating throwing lanes. Neither manage(d) the pocket particularly well.

By year 3 of Dobbs' career he still had some issues... but through a lot of hard work he was beyond where JG is.
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true. by 2016 he had shown improvement. he was still not what i would consider a good pocket QB, and i know you agree.

i think JG is better mechanically than Dobbs.

i think JG has some more to learn about defense and route running.

that said, it hink JG has come a long way since last year. and i think it's fair to expect that he take another step this off season, along with a lot of his teammates around him......er...in front of him.........as well.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
DT has had 2 outstanding games then has disappeared in the other 9. Even if he has another outstanding game against Vandy he needs to have at least start having just good games more consistently before thinking about going pro.
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yep. it's about match ups. we haven't had a lot of good ones for our DL. specifically ends/olbs in pass rush situations.

some of that is because of what hte offense does compared to what we can do. like last week, locke was getting rid of it quick. we weren't getting there with 4, 5, or 6 rushing. changes how you play it from a pass rush standpoint.

i don't expect Taylor to have another monster game because that's not genearlly how Vandy does stuff in their passing game. screens, throws to TE's....he's not a guy that is going to stand tall, and he won't have the ball long enough for us to get to him 4, 5, 6 times like we did KY.

he's going to have set the edge and make tackles in space and match up against TE's and RB's. that's how he can affect this game.

i think the best chance, if there is one, for the Dl to get pressure, it's probably Alexis, Shy and Emmit.........up the middle and in his face.
 
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LA Vol said:
UT had a list AND a search firm. What UT didn't have was an AD who wanted to hire a new HC, resented having to do it and was willing to take the path of least resistance. Bad hires lead to other bad hires and it's easy to follow UT's up the chain.

But that's the past.
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I am absolutely dumbfounded as to why he would resent the most important requirement he has to be successful at his job? He surely could see that football pretty much runs everything over there.
 
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I got caught up a bit in the Gruden mania, but he’s lead an absolute trainwreck in Oakland.

Would he have been successful? Maybe but it’s much more difficult to see in hindsight.
 
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roosterjbh said:
I got caught up a bit in the Gruden mania, but he’s lead an absolute trainwreck in Oakland.

Would he have been successful? Maybe but it’s much more difficult to see in hindsight.
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They're going full rebuild right now. That's why they gave him such a long contract and then moved whatever valuable players they could for draft capital.

Idk if he's gonna actually succeed or not but it's gonna take a bit of time to get a fair assessment of that whole situation.
 
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I hear a lot about how a bowl appearance will affect recruiting, my question. If we miss a bowl game and the extra practices, will that free up more time for coaches to evaluate and recruit?
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
The only "winnable" game you can honestly say that about was South Carolina, and even that one is subject to debate...it wasn't the staff makng all those stupid mistakes in that game, as matter of fact you could make a better argument that the staff gave them a great chance to win that game, and the players blew it.

As for the other losses which one was really ever going to be a win?

None of them.
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South Carolina was our best offensive game plan. The ball was out in under 2 seconds every time. We used the screen/swing passes as an extension of our run game. We created space for our playmakers.

We just couldn’t stop them and we had two chances basically to win the game in the fourth quarter and went cold.
 
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Gruden has proven to show that he's not a great player evaluator. He falls in love with players and then falls out of love with them. Could he still be successful? sure, but he needs a GM that doesnt listen to him and I dont think Mckenzie is that guy.
 
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JAllen18 said:
Gruden has proven to show that he's not a great player evaluator. He falls in love with players and then falls out of love with them. Could he still be successful? sure, but he needs a GM that doesnt listen to him and I dont think Mckenzie is that guy.
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It’s clear he’s going to force McKenzie out and make his own personnel decisions going forward.
 
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HankHill said:
South Carolina was our best offensive game plan. The ball was out in under 2 seconds every time. We used the screen/swing passes as an extension of our run game. We created space for our playmakers.

We just couldn’t stop them and we had two chances basically to win the game in the fourth quarter and went cold.
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and the offensive penalties. those were really, really frustrating. killed a couple drives.
 
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jakez4ut said:
yep. it's about match ups. we haven't had a lot of good ones for our DL. specifically ends/olbs in pass rush situations.

some of that is because of what hte offense does compared to what we can do. like last week, locke was getting rid of it quick. we weren't getting there with 4, 5, or 6 rushing. changes how you play it from a pass rush standpoint.

i don't expect Taylor to have another monster game because that's not genearlly how Vandy does stuff in their passing game. screens, throws to TE's....he's not a guy that is going to stand tall, and he won't have the ball long enough for us to get to him 4, 5, 6 times like we did KY.

he's going to have set the edge and make tackles in space and match up against TE's and RB's. that's how he can affect this game.

i think the best chance, if there is one, for the Dl to get pressure, it's probably Alexis, Shy and Emmit.........up the middle and in his face.
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Yep. Against UK, and also against Auburn, the interior of the DL was getting a great push.
 
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