Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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InVOLuntary said:
A lot of coaches have head coaching experience when they take a new job. You can look at that experience and draw from it. With these coaches, we have none at the head coach or coordinators. Like ive said, i don't have confidence that they'll get us back and at the same time I don't have a reason to say they won't which is why I'm not giving up on them.

Despite my best efforts to quell them, thoughts crept into my head sometime in year two that Butch wasn't going to make it. I tend to listen to those thoughts a little more these days.
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A comment from the peanut gallery. It's not like there's no one in the chain of command without significant successful head coaching experience. So there's that.
 
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LA Vol said:
We're going to take our lumps, that's for sure. I just think PruittCo will have less resistance and more effort with young players and that will ultimately help the rebuild. We'll see.
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safe to say we're not in what would be described as "a good spot" to start contending for division/conference right now, or next year.

i don't think there's any "right" way to do this.

most of it at this point is mitigating risk. i think next year could be a big momentum year given the schedule, and if we have some of those guys come back...let's face it, depth is an issue, and if we lose upper classmen, while brining in the freshment, we still have depth issues....this year, not deep but somewhat experienced, next year not deep AND inexperienced.........

would settle for experienced with young/talented depth............lol.

but next year offers some opportunity to put a little seperation between us and teams like MSU, MO, Vandy, KY.....i mean all those teams are going to have some fairly significant roster attrition. how would you like to go in to a year and feel like you had 4 conf wins in the bag?? it's been a while. if we have similar attrition, then we're still just part of that group of teams fighting for 4th place in the EAst..........
 
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I'm very curious to see how the refs call pass interference this coming Saturday. So far, it seems like they call UT's secondary pretty tightly. None more obvious than in the South Carolina game. Two weeks in a row, however, I've seen them let Vandy's DBs get very physical with the receivers.
 
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McGeesPub said:
Well, if Helton is gone, then going the Freeze route (or someone of that ilk) would be a huge mistake if Pruitt really values the ball control offense. Might be hard to find someone like that these days.

Maybe Al Saunders would come back. We ran the playbook he installed in 1982 for almost 25 years.
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Finebaum hinted that Gus would hire freeze after the season.
 
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WriterVol said:
I get that. I'm fully on the prove it to me train. I was no matter who they hired. Year one is just such a tough nut to crack. So many great coaches do relatively poorly in year one. And then others do well in year one and flame out.

Seeing flashes against Auburn and Kentucky gives me hope. South Carolina feels like the one that got away. Every coach loses games they shouldn't. We'll see how it plays out. Vanderbilt feels winnable.
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i think beating vandy, for those that are really on the fence about pruitt at this point, would at least seperate himself from Butch.

butch did beat USCe, a top 10 usce, in year one. had UGA on the ropes....and had a coulda/woulda/shoulda game against UF.

but, came down to Vandy to go to a bowl, and didn't get it done.

here we are 5 years later.........basically the same spot.

i get why this vandy game means a lot. it should. and if we lose, it's just gonna be a whole lotta "meh". we're just right back where we started basically.

but beat vandy, go to a bowl game, and you at least seperate yourself from butch, results wise.

that will mean a lot to a lot of fans. for those that kinda look beyond the result, i think we've already seen what we hoped to see.

but hell, even i think Beating Vandy is important to the trajectory of Pruitt and co, and the future. perception wise, it just settles a lot.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Kirby went 7-5 in year 1 with a much better roster than Pruitt inherited. Wonder if Pruitt and his staff would have finished with a better record with those same players?
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I would bet the farm, most of those players was recruited by Pruitt on defense. We're small and slow that's not good.
 
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if helton is out, wouldn't it be more conceivable that they just promote Friend to OC and hire either a new OL coach or new QB coach?
 
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WriterVol said:
I'm very curious to see how the refs call pass interference this coming Saturday. So far, it seems like they call UT's secondary pretty tightly. None more obvious than in the South Carolina game. Two weeks in a row, however, I've seen them let Vandy's DBs get very physical with the receivers.
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Well there was that flare out in the right flat where the Mizzou DB tackled our receiver before the ball arrived and there was not call so that might be a tip on the standard applied to a Vol opposing D.
 
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Our biggest weakness is the O-Line. Our biggest threat on D is a supremely gifted QB. Both got exposed Saturday. Our DBs will be fine. I say just throw this game out and quit debating it. Mizzou would have beat all but maybe 5 teams Saturday.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i think beating vandy, for those that are really on the fence about pruitt at this point, would at least seperate himself from Butch.

butch did beat USCe, a top 10 usce, in year one. had UGA on the ropes....and had a coulda/woulda/shoulda game against UF.

but, came down to Vandy to go to a bowl, and didn't get it done.

here we are 5 years later.........basically the same spot.

i get why this vandy game means a lot. it should. and if we lose, it's just gonna be a whole lotta "meh". we're just right back where we started basically.

but beat vandy, go to a bowl game, and you at least seperate yourself from butch, results wise.

that will mean a lot to a lot of fans. for those that kinda look beyond the result, i think we've already seen what we hoped to see.

but hell, even i think Beating Vandy is important to the trajectory of Pruitt and co, and the future. perception wise, it just settles a lot.
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Even looking past the results, it’s hard to have seen what I think we need to see until early February.

Year 1 is still a giant incomplete.
 
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pretty short press conference.

playing for pride, that should be important individuall, and as a team.

coaches have to do a better job of getting players to be at their best.

injured players day to day.

happy about the positives of the season, but acknowledges how we finish is important.
 
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McGeesPub said:
Even looking past the results, it’s hard to have seen what I think we need to see until early February.

Year 1 is still a giant incomplete.
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i agree with that. the recruiting finish is probably more important than this season's results. i know it is. still feel pretty confident that ends on a positive note though.
 
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volatil said:
So is the mental health of our fans now
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eh, i think most get it. there's a few, there alwasy are, that are going to overreact.

no one was happy about Saturday, in and of itself. nor should they be.

but it changes nothing, big picture wise. i do think most folks get that.
 
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