2018 Midterm Election Thread

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#3,651
ETV said:
Piss poor financial responsibility and planning. Especially at her age.
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Someone who can't control their needs and doesn't get the meaning of need vs. want. Typical politician. She should never hold any position of any type other than hourly wage earner.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Wtf? Shouldn't there be some kind of law against this kind of thing? I bet it's those damn Russians again..... they've been really pissed ever since Rocky beat Drago
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Actually I wouldn't be opposed to some law regarding that. Say within two weeks of election day there would a ban on releasing poll data to the public and the airing of campaign ads. Anyways I've already done my part by early voting so when I get off I'm just going to settle in and watch the results. My final guess is the DNC takes the House anywhere from 5-13 seats but no more. GOP retains the Senate and picks up 3-5 seats IMO. Haven't really kept up with the governor races so I'm not sure on those.
 
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utvols88 said:
I don't think religious affiliation is consequential. If a religious organization helps a group in need, what difference does it make? Should we arbitrarily exclude animal rescue donations because it's not to people? cancer organizations because there isnt a definite cure? What else can we arbitrarily exclude?

churches often use donations to host events for the needy, community projects, missions, etc. So again, the percentage is irrelevant imo.
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I didn't say it was inconsequential. Some money given to religious organizations goes to great causes. Much doesn't.
 
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hog88 said:
Just provide some examples that do not include opinion or feelings. You mentioned your brothers company and you got no argument from me over that.
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It's my brother in law (not that it matters). His appointments to the EPA and the DOE spoke clearly on the "official" position on the environment and public education . The heightened tensions concerning undocumented citizens has had a direct impact on many students in our district. My wife has a senior AP Calc student who is an excellent student and kid. She was asking him about his college plans and he eventually admitted that he wouldn't be going to college (possibly the local community college) because his parents were scared of the application process to major universities. He finally told her his father was not documented and they were scared he would be sent back. She was stunned because the boy was so "American" she assumed his family had been here for generations.
 
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luthervol said:
I didn't say it was inconsequential. Some money given to religious organizations goes to great causes. Much doesn't.
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No different from any thing else. How do you think PETA pays its employees, overhead, and other expenses not directly going toward saving animals? Are we really going to have this conversation?
 
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luthervol said:
It's my brother in law (not that it matters). His appointments to the EPA and the DOE spoke clearly on the "official" position on the environment and public education . The heightened tensions concerning undocumented citizens has had a direct impact on many students in our district. My wife has a senior AP Calc student who is an excellent student and kid. She was asking him about his college plans and he eventually admitted that he wouldn't be going to college (possibly the local community college) because his parents were scared of the application process to major universities. He finally told her his father was not documented and they were scared he would be sent back. She was stunned because the boy was so "American" she assumed his family had been here for generations.
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By "undocumented", you meant "illegal"?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
By "undocumented", you meant "illegal"?
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Undocumented would be worse would it not? Illegal means there is a chance that they could be made legal should documentation be presented to confirm they say they are who they are. If they have no documentation, not only are they illegal, but they are incapable of providing any means of becoming legal.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Undocumented would be worse would it not? Illegal means there is a chance that they could be made legal should documentation be presented to confirm they say they are who they are. If they have no documentation, not only are they illegal, but they are incapable of providing any means of becoming legal.
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I'm sure it would be Trump's "fault" as well if the kids of escaped convicts had questionable futures due to living with parents on the run from the law?
 
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luthervol said:
I didn't say it was inconsequential. Some money given to religious organizations goes to great causes. Much doesn't.
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You sound very definitive in that opinion. Care to defend it rationally? Or should we continue the conversation with that just being your opinion?
 
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luthervol said:
It's my brother in law (not that it matters). His appointments to the EPA and the DOE spoke clearly on the "official" position on the environment and public education . The heightened tensions concerning undocumented citizens has had a direct impact on many students in our district. My wife has a senior AP Calc student who is an excellent student and kid. She was asking him about his college plans and he eventually admitted that he wouldn't be going to college (possibly the local community college) because his parents were scared of the application process to major universities. He finally told her his father was not documented and they were scared he would be sent back. She was stunned because the boy was so "American" she assumed his family had been here for generations.
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Ok, what I was asking is what exactly have his appointments done to negatively affect the environment or public education. Something policy wise or actual action we can point to and discuss whether it's had a negative/positive effect not what the appointments "spoke to" that's 100% subjective. Surely you have some clearly defined examples.

Sorry about your wife's student but shouldn't he be protected by DACA?
 
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luthervol said:
It's my brother in law (not that it matters). His appointments to the EPA and the DOE spoke clearly on the "official" position on the environment and public education . The heightened tensions concerning undocumented citizens has had a direct impact on many students in our district. My wife has a senior AP Calc student who is an excellent student and kid. She was asking him about his college plans and he eventually admitted that he wouldn't be going to college (possibly the local community college) because his parents were scared of the application process to major universities. He finally told her his father was not documented and they were scared he would be sent back. She was stunned because the boy was so "American" she assumed his family had been here for generations.
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He should be sent back
 
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luthervol said:
It's my brother in law (not that it matters). His appointments to the EPA and the DOE spoke clearly on the "official" position on the environment and public education . The heightened tensions concerning undocumented citizens has had a direct impact on many students in our district. My wife has a senior AP Calc student who is an excellent student and kid. She was asking him about his college plans and he eventually admitted that he wouldn't be going to college (possibly the local community college) because his parents were scared of the application process to major universities. He finally told her his father was not documented and they were scared he would be sent back. She was stunned because the boy was so "American" she assumed his family had been here for generations.
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Georgia has a State Income tax. If his father is undocumented then the chances that he is paying his honest share is slim to none and he is criminally in this country using its benefits and infrastructure. Not sure what that has to do with trump since the laws have been in place well before him.

If he is paying his share then he is using a false SS# and is active in identity fraud. Again, laws that have been in place and are common sense.

The kid being americanized doesnt exclude him or his family from being law abiding nor does it provide them the exemption from paying the appropriate amount of taxes.

While I sympathize with the family who is trying to come to a country to make a better situation, I cant condone doing it illegally.
 
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luthervol said:
It's my brother in law (not that it matters). His appointments to the EPA and the DOE spoke clearly on the "official" position on the environment and public education . The heightened tensions concerning undocumented citizens has had a direct impact on many students in our district. My wife has a senior AP Calc student who is an excellent student and kid. She was asking him about his college plans and he eventually admitted that he wouldn't be going to college (possibly the local community college) because his parents were scared of the application process to major universities. He finally told her his father was not documented and they were scared he would be sent back. She was stunned because the boy was so "American" she assumed his family had been here for generations.
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Sorry to hear about that student. Unfortunately, his immediate family made decisions that have affected him and altered his path to some extent. It's not a policy I agree with completely but the laws are to be applied to all. Not for a select few to avoid and simply say no one told me or I didn't know.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Dog whistle to the white racists of the democrat party. Libs, did I do that right?
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It's also interesting to throw out this little thought experiment to them...

Trump won the 2016 election because he flipped about 500,000 votes in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. That isn't an opinion; it's just a mathematical fact. Those people who voted for Obama in 2012 (and probably 2008 as well) voted for Trump. That is, mathematically, how he got the votes. Did certain parts of the Democratic electorate just become racist in 2016?

Trump likes to tout the size of his electoral college victory - 304 to 227 - but he won by a razor thin margin, the thinness only surpassed by something like the 2000 election.
 
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luthervol said:
I'm worse off because the country is dumber, civility has declined, divisiveness has increased, the dept is exploding, we've turned a blind eye on the environment, we've diminished the value of public education, and the tariffs on Chinese imports are a significant blow to my brother in law's company.
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Literally everything you said couldn’t have described Obama more. Except maybe the tariff thing which is probably bs too.
 
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