Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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Aesius said:
I don't see Saban retiring anytime soon. He's got possibly his best team ever this year and no one is really even close to catching him. He'll step down as soon as he has another 2010-esque season, which might not be for a long time.
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The only reason I think he is going to retire this year is I have hesrd rumors from multiple places that he has said off the record that he wants to break Bryant's record and then get out.

Now the question is are those rumblings just bs talk or true.
 
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BruinVol said:
The only reason I think he is going to retire this year is I have hesrd rumors from multiple places that he has said off the record that he wants to break Bryant's record and then get out.

Now the question is are those rumblings just bs talk or true.
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To me that goes against everything Saban is about. The reason he's so successful is that it seems nothing pleases him and he's never even remotely satisfied with himself or his accomplishments. That's why he's been able to stay on top for so long, and it's an extremely rare trait. Most people naturally want to rest on their laurels after climbing the mountaintop of their profession. He's going to keep going until he has a "mediocre" 10 win season and then he'll hang it up immediately after that.
 
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Aesius said:
To me that goes against everything Saban is about. The reason he's so successful is that it seems nothing pleases him and he's never even remotely satisfied with himself or his accomplishments. That's why he's been able to stay on top for so long, and it's an extremely rare trait. Most people naturally want to rest on their laurels after climbing the mountaintop of their profession. He's going to keep going until he has a "mediocre" 10 win season and then he'll hang it up immediately after that.
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Very good post.

Again I am not sure if I want him to leave or stay. Weird spot to be in to be honest
 
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chavisut said:
Mississippi State defense checking in at 8th in the country....
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A pair of very good DE’s make that a lot easier. Still very impressive nonetheless.

They still have to play some good offenses in the SECw in Bama, Ole Miss, and A&M. Even LSU. Won’t surprise me at all if they don’t end up in the top 10.
 
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VolsnCards5 said:
So JJs TD should have been called back.

We got a break?

Maybe things are changing...
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Wow, the OL was way down field. They must have thought it was a run play.

I will say that's probably one of the most overlooked penalties in college football. I've seen 'screens' thrown 5 yards past the LOS with the OL out in front blocking for them with no penalties. On that play, it wasn't affecting the pass or route.
 
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Not having played more than a couple years of organized football, I've never really understood why illegal receiver downfield is a penalty. What kind of illegal advantage does an offense gain if linemen are further than 2-3 yards downfield during a passing play? Is that advantage not negated by the fact that the defense should have an easier time getting to and affecting the quarterback trying to throw the pass.

And, while I'm on the subject, same question as is relates to illegal formation when a receiver lines up on the LOS (or is it off the LOS)...when the announcers will say that the receiver was "covered up". I don't understand how in the world those subtle misalignments can give the offense an advantage.
 
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Chuckie said:
Not having played more than a couple years of organized football, I've never really understood why illegal receiver downfield is a penalty. What kind of illegal advantage does an offense gain if linemen are further than 2-3 yards downfield during a passing play? Is that advantage not negated by the fact that the defense should have an easier time getting to and affecting the quarterback trying to throw the pass.

And, while I'm on the subject, same question as is relates to illegal formation when a receiver lines up on the LOS (or is it off the LOS)...when the announcers will say that the receiver was "covered up". I don't understand how in the world those subtle misalignments can give the offense an advantage.
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First question. Look at that play. If there was an underneath route then they would have 3 linemen out in front and the defense has no one to tackle/break up the play. With a screen everything is behind the LOS.
Second question. No idea TBH
 
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Rishvol said:
First question. Look at that play. If there was an underneath route then they would have 3 linemen out in front and the defense has no one to tackle/break up the play. With a screen everything is behind the LOS.
Second question. No idea TBH
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Yeah, I get that. But isn't the point of football to figure out how to gain an advantage whereby your 11 can beat the other team's 11? If someone can devise a play (I really don't see how it's that much different than a screen) where their receiver/back gets the ball with all 5 linemen out in front, haven't you simply devised a scheme that gives your 11 a chance to beat the other 11? It's not like "the defense has no one to tackle/break up the play"...they have 11 out on the field just like we do. The onus is then on the other team's defensive coaches to figure out how to take away or negate that advantage...or exploit it so that it becomes an advantage for them.
 
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Aesius said:
To me that goes against everything Saban is about. The reason he's so successful is that it seems nothing pleases him and he's never even remotely satisfied with himself or his accomplishments. That's why he's been able to stay on top for so long, and it's an extremely rare trait. Most people naturally want to rest on their laurels after climbing the mountaintop of their profession. He's going to keep going until he has a "mediocre" 10 win season and then he'll hang it up immediately after that.
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Bryant was dead, what, 3 months after he retired.
 
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Aesius said:
To me that goes against everything Saban is about. The reason he's so successful is that it seems nothing pleases him and he's never even remotely satisfied with himself or his accomplishments. That's why he's been able to stay on top for so long, and it's an extremely rare trait. Most people naturally want to rest on their laurels after climbing the mountaintop of their profession. He's going to keep going until he has a "mediocre" 10 win season and then he'll hang it up immediately after that.
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Saban can win 10 more Championships and he still won't be held in as high a regard as The Bear. He's a hired gun, a mercenary with no "true" legacy at Bama.
 
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LA Vol said:
Let's at least wait until Pruitt wins the SEC East before worrying about him being hired away. Beating SCAR, UK, Vandy and Mizzou, getting those extra bowl practices and signing a big recruiting class is enough to worry about this year.
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Lmao it's like this every time. Crazy
 
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ChismsHeadband said:
Interesting.. I was looking for Austin Pope stats (spoiler: there were none) to see if he played against Auburn and I wound up on a team tackles game log:

cfbstats.com - 2018 Tennessee Volunteers Tackle Game Log

I don't know if this can be used as a metric to illustrate how our defense is kind of coming together, playing more as a team, or if I'm just looking for something in a pile of statistical nothing..

For the second time all season (the only other time was WVU), our defense scored more assisted tackles than solo tackles:

Opponent / Solo / Assisted
WVU / 30 / 34
ETSU / 28 / 24
UTEP / 27 / 18
Florida / 30 / 22
Georgia / 42 / 32
Auburn / 37 / 44

Any insights from someone who may know X's and O's better?
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I think assisted tackles were lower in the West Virginia because we missed solo tackle opportunities, and I think they were lower during Auburn because Pruitt knew what they were doing before their QB did, and therefore was able to get multiple people in position to make plays when the play was called.
 
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