Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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volfanngatorland said:
I think Dobbs had plenty of moxie, going by Newt’s definition. Jmo
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Against bad opponents and UF in 2016, sure. Against good defenses and USCe 2016, Vandy 2016, OU 2015, and Arky 2015 not really.


I'm a huge Dobbs fan. He's easily my favorite player we've had since 2000 and I was always patient that he'd develop even when he struggled as a passer in 2015. But if moxie means "putting the ball in the only place it could be caught WHEN IT COUNTS...putting the team on your shoulders and willing a win," Dobbs wasn't really able to do that consistently until 2016. And it's not like he was the only baller on that offense either and he still had some moments where he couldn't do enough to beat a lesser opponent.


Dude had a great career, no doubt. But Clausen's still the only QB I've watched win two games in the swamp. They called him the iceman for a reason.
 
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Rishvol said:
Too many games lost due to his inconsistency in the passing game, but he did have moxie. Just not enough imo
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Could you imagine how good Dobbs would have been with someone like kiffie as OC. HE was a great runner , I think better than Hurts.
 
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volsagain said:
Could you imagine how good Dobbs would have been with someone like kiffie as OC. HE was a great runner , I think better than Hurts.
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I think Hurts is faster, but man was Dobbs elusive. Even before he bulked up he had a way of sliding off tacklers at times. I loved watching him run the ball.
 
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that whole offense for two years was predicated on whether or not Dobbs played well. aside from Kamara, who everyone would agree wasn't used enough or the right way, if he struggled, the whole offense struggled. he wasn't good enough from the pocket to scare defenses out of the box, so he was able to take advantage when plays broke down, or he would take off when a hole opened and DB's backs were to him.

i don't know if we've had a QB that had more on his shoulders than Dobbs. at least not in my lifetime. some of that was due to his own limitations. but a very large part of it was due to other things lacking around him, and what we had on the sidelines.

i'd say had there been no Dobbs, CBJ may not have made it past 2015.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Against bad opponents and UF in 2016, sure. Against good defenses and USCe 2016, Vandy 2016, OU 2015, and Arky 2015 not really.


I'm a huge Dobbs fan. He's easily my favorite player we've had since 2000 and I was always patient that he'd develop even when he struggled as a passer in 2015. But if moxie means "putting the ball in the only place it could be caught WHEN IT COUNTS...putting the team on your shoulders and willing a win," Dobbs wasn't really able to do that consistently until 2016. And it's not like he was the only baller on that offense either and he still had some moments where he couldn't do enough to beat a lesser opponent.


Dude had a great career, no doubt. But Clausen's still the only QB I've watched win two games in the swamp. They called him the iceman for a reason.
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I'll take Casey Clausen over Dobbs any day. Clausen was a winner, Dobbs wasn't.
 
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volamite86 said:
Cubs didn’t get it done, but 47 games in 49 games will do that to you. Bats and arms were dead.
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Still should have won 1 out of 2 against the Brewers or Rockies. I am not sure anyone will beat the Brewers this post-season, though. They are playing lights out.
 
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HankHill said:
If you have to surround a QB win great talent to perform then he isn’t a good QB... QB is the ultimate Duck tape position they make bad rosters look better.
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We don't have one of those dudes, unfortunately. At least, not that is ready this year. I know you have already said that, just agreeing with you for a change.
 
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Curious to see how confident the fanbase is in Pruitt getting an upset win against a team were not supposed to beat like Auburn, South Carolina or Kentucky.
 
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JAllen18 said:
Curious to see how confident the fanbase is in Pruitt getting an upset win against a team were not supposed to beat like Auburn, South Carolina or Kentucky.
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there's plenty out there on the topic.

safe to say, most would consider a victory against any of them an upset victory.

so do with that what you will. but no one would probably be surprised with an L.
 
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Here’s are the notable observations…

*** The offensive line had a noteworthy swap Tuesday, as sophomore tackle Nathan Niehaus was working with the main group at right guard. Jerome Carvin, who has started all five games at right guard, spent the period with the backup unit at center. Also, Chance Hall continues to take reps with the 2s at left tackle.

*** Senior safety Micah Abernathy was working over on the side, so Shawn Shamburger got the bulk of the run with Nigel Warrior at safety. The Vols also worked on some new combo coverages — with three safeties and two linebackers. Interestingly, Austin Smith, who hasn’t played much at all this season, got some work with the main group.

*** The tight ends worked a lot on combo blocks, as Brian Niedermeyer shouted “it’s like man-to-man defense in basketball.”

*** Coached by Jeremy Pruitt and David Johnson, Tennessee’s wide receivers spent the entire first period working the screen game. Pruitt was really getting on Jauan Jennings, Marquez Callaway and the rest of the group about their blocking on the perimeter.

*** The defensive line spent a period working on Auburn’s wildcat package. Naturally, gap control was a key emphasis by Tracy Rocker.
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--Simonton
 
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JAllen18 said:
Curious to see how confident the fanbase is in Pruitt getting an upset win against a team were not supposed to beat like Auburn, South Carolina or Kentucky.
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I'm to the point where I'm pretty much giving everyone a pass this year as far as the W-L record goes. I'm just interested in seeing how the whole team comes along top to bottom. I'm liking where we're at for the most part development wise on defense. Inexperience is showing for the offense on multiple levels though IMO. Growth and development there from the players and staff is a must.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
I hate when a FF poster starts a thread about recruiting because it almost always gets moved down here and it almost always is a retarded thread with retardeder replies.
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Idc about people using the word “retarded” in the least... but “retardeder”? You got that trisomy 21 imbalance bro?
 
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