Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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Skizer41 said:
He's the better deep passer. No doubt in my mind.
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He’s definitely better at handing off and losing to G5 teams.


Seriously though, for a QB with as little arm talent as Chryst, the dude must have a great understanding of the game. Otherwise he’d have ended up somewhere like Carson Newman by now. Probably has a very bright career ahead in coaching and we’ll be lucky to have him in our alumni network.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I just dont see how we score on anyone with a pulse. Consistently anyway.
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Look how many quarters we went without TD’s and the struggle against Umass. As bad as this O is, it’s improved on last year. We had a couple of long passes against Georgia. D not giving up 600 yards as well. Looking better. Not great but better.
 
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JacketVol said:
Look how many quarters we went without TD’s and the struggle against Umass. As bad as this O is, it’s improved on last year. We had a couple of long passes against Georgia. D not giving up 600 yards as well. Looking better. Not great but better.
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Still no three step drops and quick passing game. No spreading them out and throwing quick slants. I still think a seasoned OC would put the players in a better position to succeed. I think Helton is a liability right now. Are we better than last year? Probably slightly. Like you said, we've got a long way to go.
 
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darkgable said:
A QB with no touch on the football. Throws a AK 47 bullet pass on short passes. He can't read a defense or pick up a blitz. No feel for the game for example handing the ball off to his RB who got blasted instead of keeping it. Stares down his number one receiver every time. Looks fake when he's fired up on the sidelines unlike Dobbs who always looked authentic when he tried to get everyone hyped. Scrambles like he's running in mud. Touchdown pass was short and lucky because the receiver was covered by a linebacker interecepted if he was covered by anyone else. Doesn't lead his receivers on any passes. Looks like a deer in headlights. Football IQ is not high. This kid is not the future of the program. I'll take a mature senior from the West Coast who's won ten games can manage the game and read defenses and give us a fighting chance. Regardless of who you won those games against you still have to go out there and win them. That's experience. But hey JG is the "future" of the program.
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Agree with everything except the bolded part. chrysts arm is worse than my grandma’s and she’s been dead for years.

Being able to read a defense doesn’t count for s*** if you can’t hit a WR above the ankles consistently.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Still no three step drops and quick passing game. No spreading them out and throwing quick slants. I still think a seasoned OC would put the players in a better position to succeed. I think Helton is a liability right now. Are we better than last year? Probably slightly. Like you said, we've got a long way to go.
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THe best OCs take inventory of the talent they have to work with each offseason and adjust their scheme and playcalling to minimize heir weaknesses and emphasize their strengths.



We haven’t had an OC do that since Kiffin, IMO. Cut did a great job of that too, just less recently.


Helton doesn’t seem like he has a knack for that.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
THe best OCs take inventory of the talent they have to work with each offseason and adjust their scheme and playcalling to minimize heir weaknesses and emphasize their strengths.



We haven’t had an OC do that since Kiffin, IMO. Cut did a great job of that too, just less recently.


Helton doesn’t seem like he has a knack for that.
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Hopefully he can develope that. I think its the growing pains of being a first time oc.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
What’s up, homies?! I’m guessing everyone is on here whining about something. I think we are close to fully buying-in to Pruitt and the coaches. I had to pause the game for a while to help my wife with a photography shoot right after we scored the first TD. Never thought I would come back to watch us battle back and have a chance to get the ball back with 10 mins left in the game down 12 points. I enjoyed watching them fight. A long ways to go, but we can build a lot off of the game today. OL looked a lot better. Hoping our playcaller will start trusting them more now to open the playbook earlier in the game.

We get a week off to grow some more and get healthy before heading to AU. I believe in this team a lot more after today, so @Sugaray13 and I are going to go to AU and support our team in 2 weeks. We want to be present for Pruitt’s first big win at TN. ;)
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Will be there as well.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Hopefully he can develope that. I think its the growing pains of being a first time oc.
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That’s what I’m hoping too. Some guys (like Kiffin and spurrier , as much as I hate them) just seem to have a knack as a hemera and playcallers. Some guys have a lot of football knowledge but need a good deal of experience to utilize it. Some guys have a lot of football knowledge and just never seem to get it as a gamplanner/ playcaller.

I’m jut hoping Helton isn’t the latter.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
That’s what I’m hoping too. Some guys (like Kiffin and spurrier , as much as I hate them) just seem to have a knack as a hemera and playcallers. Some guys have a lot of football knowledge but need a good deal of experience to utilize it. Some guys have a lot of football knowledge and just never seem to get it as a gamplanner/ playcaller.

I’m jut hoping Helton isn’t the latter.
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I would beg Peyton to come watch film and game plan with me. I know he'll never coach here but I would pick that big brain of his.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Still no three step drops and quick passing game. No spreading them out and throwing quick slants. I still think a seasoned OC would put the players in a better position to succeed. I think Helton is a liability right now. Are we better than last year? Probably slightly. Like you said, we've got a long way to go.
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Just saying it’s better than last year but wonder where the slants are as well.
 
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darkgable said:
Saw CJP's presser after the game and I'm loving that emotion from our coach. He's the right coach for right now and what these kids need. They've been beaten down by the last coach and have a coach who's expressing how much he cares and he's not abandoning them due to their lack of talent. He's trying to coach what he's got. That's a coach. They're playing for this man on defense. Whenever I thought of the 3-4 I thought of that Sunseri disaster and yet CJP is making it work with what he's got.
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It is amazing the difference between our 3-4 transition this year and the Sunseri year.
 
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