Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[Skizer41]

Just finished listening to Pruitt's press conference, maybe it's just his personality, but he sounds extremely relaxed. If they can just get some of these guys to learn the "know how", I think we'll be alright.

*aight

Fixed your post haha

 

[chargervol]

Fans lose their damn minds after a loss.
That is all.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Probably not ready for the job doesn’t exude confidence. Not saying you should say he’s going to kill it. Your statement implies he should fail and is negative regardless how you want to slice it. I can’t say probably fail or succeed. That is wait and see. You may be waiting to see but you think it’s more likely he will fail. I tend to think with God’s help, I can overcome adversity and tend to be optimistic with teams I follow but try to stay in reality. I know he might fail but expect him to succeed till he doesn’t.

You're taking it the wrong way. There are a lot of jobs people get that they are not ready for but the many persevere, many don't. It would be interesting to look at the statistics (Chatt where are you?) of the success/failure rate of first time head coaches. I bet statistically they fail more than they succeed but that's just a guess on my part. Not being ready for a job doesn't guarantee failure. I just have a total different connotation to that phrase than some of you do.

 

[Skizer41]

RBs - 1 combined start
OL - C and LG never started a game in college and LT barely practiced
TEs - 0 starts
DL - 1 guy making first start
LB - Kirkland first game in 20 month s I believe VQ said
DBs - 3 true freshman playing heavy snaps or starting.

When I take the names out that I associate with recruiting stars and hype/potential. I don't really know why I was so confident.

Very good point! Good post!

 

[appyvol]

The score didn't reflect the total game. We were a break away from having the lead at halftime. If we punched the ball in from the 2 with 7 min to go in the 4th, we're down 12 and have a totally different outlook on this game. Minus that play, (me screaming run the damn ball, 9 was gashing them) I thought play calling was well. Loved the aggressiveness on the early td pass to DWA on 4th down.

 

[appyvol]

And while the secondary did struggle, let's not act like Grier didn't throw some damn ropes into donut holes. I think our defense will be much better against a more balanced attack. The run defense looked good.

 

[Kingston Vol]

RBs - 1 combined start
OL - C and LG never started a game in college and LT barely practiced
TEs - 0 starts
DL - 1 guy making first start
LB - Kirkland first game in 20 month s I believe VQ said
DBs - 3 true freshman playing heavy snaps or starting.

When I take the names out that I associate with recruiting stars and hype/potential. I don't really know why I was so confident.

And I personally certainly underestimated the grad transfers they got. Their defensive line gave us trouble a lot of the time.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Interesting thread. Stephen White is pretty respected in the college football analyst game

 

[HankHill]

Oh I agree, I just think if they played a real defense theyd get destroyed. Fortunately for them they dont besides those two teams who will light them up.

There’s only a handful a teams in college football who are really good at rushing the passer. Clemson and auburn, drop down a tier to Alabama, then who knows after that. That’s why it’s such a coveted position in the nfl draft now.

 

[HankHill]

I'm not being argumentative. Previous head coaching experience is a huge factor.

Yea good thing Doug Peterson was a head coach before he took over the eagles.

 

[HankHill]

Every single position is important on a football team.

But there are positions who are more expendable and dependent than others. Case and point with corner. New England or Philadelphia didn’t have a single good corner on either team.

Corners leave teams with great pass rushes all the time and then they turn out to be lesser of players. Revis with the bucs, Byron maxwell leaving Seattle, josh Norman leaving Carolina etc.

 

[JacketVol]

You're taking it the wrong way. There are a lot of jobs people get that they are not ready for but the many persevere, many don't. It would be interesting to look at the statistics (Chatt where are you?) of the success/failure rate of first time head coaches. I bet statistically they fail more than they succeed but that's just a guess on my part. Not being ready for a job doesn't guarantee failure. I just have a total different connotation to that phrase than some of you do.

I would like tinsee those stats as well. Easy to take things wrong in text and on message boards.

 

[appyvol]

Interesting thread. Stephen White is pretty respected in the college football analyst game

I don't remember down and distance, but JG threw a in on 2nd or 3rd and long with Z wiiiiiiide open on a seam, completely toasted the safety. I lt would have been an easy 6. Alcohol may have effected my memory a tad though, I haven't rewatched.

 

[VolGee4]

But there are positions who are more expendable and dependent than others. Case and point with corner. New England or Philadelphia didn’t have a single good corner on either team.

Corners leave teams with great pass rushes all the time and then they turn out to be lesser of players. Revis with the bucs, Byron maxwell leaving Seattle, josh Norman leaving Carolina etc.

Philly was tied for 4th in interceptions last year. You certainly don’t have to have an elite corner but still have to have some who are in position to make plays on the ball.

 

[HankHill]

Philly was tied for 4th in interceptions last year. You certainly don’t have to have an elite corner but still have to have some who are in position to make plays on the ball.

Jalen mills was a 7th round pick and had one of the worst QB %s when thrown at. Patrick Robinson was cut by the colts. That whole defense their passrush. Darby was bad with buffalo. Trust me their corners were not good.

 

[JCP201]

I finally got to watch that show, and I noticed our head coach didn't seem as impressed with Jordan as I was. Interesting article.

One big reason why Tennessee Vols fans should feel good about Jeremy Pruitt

 

[butchna]

I finally got to watch that show, and I noticed our head coach didn't seem as impressed with Jordan as I was. Interesting article.

One big reason why Tennessee Vols fans should feel good about Jeremy Pruitt

Betting he didn’t like some of the dancing that cost Jordan some yards.

 

[VolGee4]

Jalen mills was a 7th round pick and had one of the worst QB %s when thrown at. Patrick Robinson was cut by the colts. That whole defense their passrush. Darby was bad with buffalo. Trust me their corners were not good.

Pro Football Focus named Darby Defensive Rookie of the year 3 years ago. It’s why they traded Jordan Matthews and a third round pick.

Again, not saying they were elite, but you still have to have guys who are in position to hold their own and make plays.

 

[WriterVol]

But why did he miss them? I have seen media say he missed 2 throws and we got lucky. But did we? When I rewatched the game, he overthrew the running back because kongbo was pushing an OL into Griers spot forcing him to go backwards and throw quicker than he wanted to. That's the affecting a QB without hitting him Pruitt mentioned.

We weren't nearly as bad as score indicates or how I felt watching live with some brews in me.

Kind of lazy to say TN got lucky on those. Every quarterback misses "sure" TD throws. It's part of the game. The best ones just miss fewer. He still got plenty of them.

Their receivers even dropped one or two touchdowns as I recall.

We've seen plenty of Tennessee touchdowns get missed over the years. It's just part of the game, unless you're a Florida receiver standing in the end zone.

 

[HankHill]

Pro Football Focus named Darby Defensive Rookie of the year 3 years ago. It’s why they traded Jordan Matthews and a third round pick.

Again, not saying they were elite, but you still have to have guys who are in position to hold their own and make plays.

Just a word of advice don’t ever go by PFF for rating or award. They are awful. Stats they are ok. Jordan Mathews has sense been cut twice too.

 

[VolGee4]

Just a word of advice don’t ever go by PFF for rating or award. They are awful. Stats they are ok. Jordan Mathews has sense been cut twice too.

He was named Rookie of the Month by the league. He had some skill- he wasn’t bad at Buffalo. Anyway, arguing over something small. Pass rush certainly helps the backend, but you still have to have some ball hawkers.

 

[Kingston Vol]

I don’t think it’s entitely fair to compare what NFL teams do to what college teams should do.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Yea good thing Doug Peterson was a head coach before he took over the eagles.

Yea, it's good thing Nick Saban worked his way up the ranks first. Can you imagine how good he would be if he went straight for coordinator to the Bama job?

 

[Z06VolinWV]

Interesting thread. Stephen White is pretty respected in the college football analyst game

I saw that from the stands. Would've been 6!

 

[InVOLuntary]

You’re generalizing and exaggerating...quite the double threat. Keeper of the Sunshine is a pretty good line. Best of luck in your new self hating defeatist persona.

There you go jumping off that cliff again. Generalizations and exaggerations? you're the king of generalizations and exaggerations. You take one phrase that you took wrong and blew up into I'm one of your neggatron arch enemies.