Swain: Josh Palmer "Best Wide Receiver" in Fall Camp

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Pepe said:
What the wide receivers need is simply A system that knows how to get the ball into their hands.
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Well, they also need to run routes when supposed to, and run the correct routes. Something until last year I wasnt aware was a problem at the college level.
 
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Whoever has the softest hands.. the tight end until they stop him.

Drops are really bad. They will put in blockers and run, before risking a drop.

Probably going to choose the QB based on fewest reciever drops...
 
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DaUndergroundMan said:
Every body wants to give greazy hell...

Jealous he has famous family in mlb and at Tennessee. I guess?

I just like his perspective. Just as valuable as a swain....imo.

You morons ain't got a clue if you think Pruitt let's swain just hang around all day long, getting scoops and mega insider status.

He prob gets the same 7 minutes of drills every other media guy gets....of which we see about 3.5 minutes of in daily practice videos.

So swain gets 3.5 more minutes than us.

The "swain has uber next level insider vol status and bunks with Pruitt at summer camp" narrative started a day or so ago to prop up swain unwavering multi year allegiance to guarantano when some doof crapped out...

"I think swain can stay all practice long cuz he is so VFL." In response to a wiser soul who had pointed out that 7 min.

If a media member is there all practice....his words are meaningless....as he is clearly a tool of the coach. Otherwise he would get the seven minutes.
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I could honestly give a flying flip about who his cousins are, he isn't the only person in the world related to somebody we all know. So chill out on the star watching. I like others will continue to call him on his biased attacks, which he has done before, just to make Brandon look better. You can act like he is some generous giver of knowledge, but in reality he is just trying to ride his cousins coattails to some ecred.
 
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DaUndergroundMan said:
And to be completely fair greazy took up for Josh Palmer when i and others were bashing him for drops and he's been telling us Jordan Murphy was special way before swain ever did.
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I’m aware of his resume. Amongst his many “wins” are his thread guaranteeing Butch would return as coach because we’re stupid and don’t know any better and his declaration that UT would never hire a black coach. When he started posting, I like many others welcomed him and enjoyed the tidbits he brought concerning Brandon’s recruitment. Then he devolved into this country azz, jerkwad, CuzinGreazey name droppin, Lavar Ball starter kit who disparages almost every player in his cuz’s position group...and we either buy it or we be hatin! Get over yourself! You dig his act? Knock yourself out. I’ve paid attention and react accordingly.
 
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sjt18 said:
That coupled with a couple of really good TE's... makes a pretty good receiving corps. If they get something out of others then that's just bonus.
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You must be reading my mail, because that's exactly what I was thinking! How are our blocking/catching TEs doing? Do they play complimentary football? (never thought I'd be using that term!
 
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nice to hear props for Josh and that he continues to improve, but I'll take Callaway all day long over anyone else...and,

GO VOLS!
 
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Palmer has alot of ability..His problem is he is to raw as a wideout..Last season him and Brandon was roommates and to be honest Palmer was a deer in the headlights last season..Brandon told me once he figures it out he will be unstoppable..Alot of last season had to do with wr's not knowing alot of plays..Thats why offesnse was somewhat predictable..Murphy Palmer and Tillman are thrme future..
 
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greazy1722 said:
Palmer has alot of ability..His problem is he is to raw as a wideout..Last season him and Brandon was roommates and to be honest Palmer was a deer in the headlights last season..Brandon told me once he figures it out he will be unstoppable..Alot of last season had to do with wr's not knowing alot of plays..Thats why offesnse was somewhat predictable..Murphy Palmer and Tillman are thrme future..
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Hopefully Josh Palmer goes 2001 Kelly Washington on all of Tennessee's opponents in 2018
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
A few encouraging signs among the Wide Receiver group. Still think this has the potential to be our most improved position group.

RTI: Josh Palmer "Best Wide Receiver in Fall Camp





Swain also high on Jordan Murphy.



I'm not too worried about Jennings. He just needs to recover. If JJ is healthy, and we indeed see significant improvements from Murphy and Palmer, and potential contributions from Tillman and even Tyler Byrd, the WR group could be much better than last season.
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Whoever has the fewest drops in camp gets my vote as the best receiver heading into WVU.
 
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TennesseeTarheel said:
You must be reading my mail, because that's exactly what I was thinking! How are our blocking/catching TEs doing? Do they play complimentary football? (never thought I'd be using that term!
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Just the trickle of info getting out strongly suggests that Wood-Anderson is the real deal. Eli seems to have taken Pruitt's challenge to heart and added some weight to become a more physical blocker. I haven't personally seen or heard too much from Pope or Bumphus. Blakely who moved to an H-back, FB, TE role has been quiet but recently received some praise for having better than expected hands. Princeton Fant sounds like a wild card. I believe they've had him at RB, HB, and TE. If he could give UT a Mose Phillips/Shawn Bryson type of player... that would be an incredible find.

Right now it sounds like two TE's are pretty firmly established with a couple of guys ready to block out of the back field... then question marks after that.
 
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sjt18 said:
Why? He was UT's most consistent receiver too outside of Kelly. If anything... he probably deserves a little more love.
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Consistently average...He had an opportunity to make a name for himself against South Carolina and he let it slip through both hands.

Johnson doesn't have as much upside as some of the other guys in that group. With good coaching, I think we'll see the potential of the other guys rise to the surface. Murphy is more smooth. Byrd and Callaway are more athletic. Jennings is more competitive. Nobody would be surprised if any of those three took over a game or made a series of big plays. Johnson isn't a guy like that. He's consistent, yes, but we need playmakers who are also consistent.
 
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volfan_28 said:
Consistently average...He had an opportunity to make a name for himself against South Carolina and he let it slip through both hands.
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Not taking a shot at you personally but I've seen this BS about enough. Go back and watch that play. If it wasn't tipped which it looks like it was... the ball went through the hands of the USCe defender before Johnson had a chance to make a play. JG threw that ball in the only place it could have been thrown but he didn't press the LOS. He got just a little pressure up field from their DL and threw the ball while giving ground. He was in effect running backwards and trying to force the ball into a tiny window. If he had found a way around the corner to pressure the LOS... maybe coverage drops off a little. Maybe he's able to get more on the throw. It was a desperation play that was very well defended. This whole narrative that Johnson missed an easy catch to lose the game for UT... is ridiculous.

Before repeating this false narrative again... you should go back and watch that play a few more times and ask yourself who in all of football could have guaranteed a catch on that play.

Johnson doesn't have as much upside as some of the other guys in that group. With good coaching, I think we'll see the potential of the other guys rise to the surface. Murphy is more smooth. Byrd and Callaway are more athletic. Jennings is more competitive. Nobody would be surprised if any of those three took over a game or made a series of big plays. Johnson isn't a guy like that. He's consistent, yes, but we need playmakers who are also consistent.
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Whatever you want to believe. But if you are really interested in the guy's potential... watch the first two drives vs Vandy. Plenty athletic and if it is thrown in his area... he usually catches it.
 
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sjt18 said:
Not taking a shot at you personally but I've seen this BS about enough. Go back and watch that play. If it wasn't tipped which it looks like it was... the ball went through the hands of the USCe defender before Johnson had a chance to make a play. JG threw that ball in the only place it could have been thrown but he didn't press the LOS. He got just a little pressure up field from their DL and threw the ball while giving ground. He was in effect running backwards and trying to force the ball into a tiny window. If he had found a way around the corner to pressure the LOS... maybe coverage drops off a little. Maybe he's able to get more on the throw. It was a desperation play that was very well defended. This whole narrative that Johnson missed an easy catch to lose the game for UT... is ridiculous.

Before repeating this false narrative again... you should go back and watch that play a few more times and ask yourself who in all of football could have guaranteed a catch on that play.


Whatever you want to believe. But if you are really interested in the guy's potential... watch the first two drives vs Vandy. Plenty athletic and if it is thrown in his area... he usually catches it.
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If you don't want something to come across as a personal shot, don't be a jerk. The replay from the end zone clearly shows the ball going through his hands, but one play doesn't define a players ability. I think Brandon is a solid receiver, but he's not as good as Jordan Murphy, Marquez Callaway, or Jauan Jennings. Whether or not he's better than Josh Palmer or Tyler Byrd is debatable and it likely depends on whether or not Josh and Tyler have been able to polish their skills in spring practice and fall camp. Considering the buzz that they've generated, it's reasonable to assume that they have. Why does it bother you so much that people think we've got players better than him?
 
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sjt18 said:
Not taking a shot at you personally but I've seen this BS about enough. Go back and watch that play. If it wasn't tipped which it looks like it was... the ball went through the hands of the USCe defender before Johnson had a chance to make a play. JG threw that ball in the only place it could have been thrown but he didn't press the LOS. He got just a little pressure up field from their DL and threw the ball while giving ground. He was in effect running backwards and trying to force the ball into a tiny window. If he had found a way around the corner to pressure the LOS... maybe coverage drops off a little. Maybe he's able to get more on the throw. It was a desperation play that was very well defended. This whole narrative that Johnson missed an easy catch to lose the game for UT... is ridiculous.

Before repeating this false narrative again... you should go back and watch that play a few more times and ask yourself who in all of football could have guaranteed a catch on that play.


Whatever you want to believe. But if you are really interested in the guy's potential... watch the first two drives vs Vandy. Plenty athletic and if it is thrown in his area... he usually catches it.
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show me where the db touched that ball.Screenshot_20180316-110200.png
 
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Palmer has alot of ability..His problem is he is to raw as a wideout..Last season him and Brandon was roommates and to be honest Palmer was a deer in the headlights last season..Brandon told me once he figures it out he will be unstoppable..Alot of last season had to do with wr's not knowing alot of plays..Thats why offesnse was somewhat predictable..Murphy Palmer and Tillman are the future..
 
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greazy1722 said:
Palmer has alot of ability..His problem is he is to raw as a wideout..Last season him and Brandon was roommates and to be honest Palmer was a deer in the headlights last season..Brandon told me once he figures it out he will be unstoppable..Alot of last season had to do with wr's not knowing alot of plays..Thats why offesnse was somewhat predictable..Murphy Palmer and Tillman are the future..
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@sjt18 see here is some evidence that the coaches may have simplified the playbook for more than just JG, like all of the new players due to injury. I'm not saying JG is infallible, but you keep saying they simplified it because he couldn't get it. This "insider knowledge" shows it could have been more receivers than the qb.
 
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sjt18 said:
Not taking a shot at you personally but I've seen this BS about enough. Go back and watch that play. If it wasn't tipped which it looks like it was... the ball went through the hands of the USCe defender before Johnson had a chance to make a play. JG threw that ball in the only place it could have been thrown but he didn't press the LOS. He got just a little pressure up field from their DL and threw the ball while giving ground. He was in effect running backwards and trying to force the ball into a tiny window. If he had found a way around the corner to pressure the LOS... maybe coverage drops off a little. Maybe he's able to get more on the throw. It was a desperation play that was very well defended. This whole narrative that Johnson missed an easy catch to lose the game for UT... is ridiculous.

Before repeating this false narrative again... you should go back and watch that play a few more times and ask yourself who in all of football could have guaranteed a catch on that play.


Whatever you want to believe. But if you are really interested in the guy's potential... watch the first two drives vs Vandy. Plenty athletic and if it is thrown in his area... he usually catches it.
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It literally went right through his hands. Any wr on a d1 roster catches that ball 9 out of 10 times everyday at practice. However I don’t think that a single play should define Johnson’s season, because he was our most consistent wr last year. That being said you can’t blame that throw on Guarantano he put it literally right in his receivers hands.
 
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BloomuVol said:
@sjt18 see here is some evidence that the coaches may have simplified the playbook for more than just JG, like all of the new players due to injury. I'm not saying JG is infallible, but you keep saying they simplified it because he couldn't get it. This "insider knowledge" shows it could have been more receivers than the qb.
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Except he was playing when QD was QB.... He did make mistakes too.
 
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jarnol32 said:
It literally went right through his hands. Any wr on a d1 roster catches that ball 9 out of 10 times everyday at practice. However I don’t think that a single play should define Johnson’s season, because he was our most consistent wr last year. That being said you can’t blame that throw on Guarantano he put it literally right in his receivers hands.
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"Literally"? I have watched that replay several times. If it went through his hands then it is obscured by going through the hands of the defender first. So no... I'm still not buying the easy catch narrative. I'm not blaming anyone except maybe Jones and his infallible system and flawless coaching. Do you have video showing what you're claiming? I've watched the one on youtube several times. That was NOT an easy chance.
 
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BloomuVol said:
@sjt18 see here is some evidence that the coaches may have simplified the playbook for more than just JG, like all of the new players due to injury. I'm not saying JG is infallible, but you keep saying they simplified it because he couldn't get it. This "insider knowledge" shows it could have been more receivers than the qb.
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Or maybe just a terrible offense
 
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butchna said:
@sjt18 ATP you’re just arguing with your eyes.
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I'll be glad to watch a replay that shows that easy catch everyone seems to think he missed. Do you have it? I've looked and can't find that angle. From the angle shown on the youtube replay, it looks as if either the DB tipped the ball or it went through his hands before Johnson got his fingers on it.

I'm being serious.... and, no, not arguing with my eyes. All I have is that one replay view and it appears exactly like I've described.
 
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