Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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BruinVol said:
Rough numbers for JK tonight.

Anyone have any idea if he is a lock to make the roster?
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I didn’t see anything other than the TD, but you have to remember that he is running at times with the 2nd and 3rd string line. So the coaches will know where the issue is.
 
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BruinVol said:
We said the exact same thing about him last year. With that said I know Larry. He knows nothing more than we do in this case. Just his opinion like last year which he turned out to be correct on
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He checked out after all this Currie mess. So hard to take him too serious on predictions this ye when he admits he doesn't keep up anymore
 
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VolGee4 said:
I didn’t see anything other than the TD, but you have to remember that he is running at times with the 2nd and 3rd string line. So the coaches will know where the issue is.
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Another poster said he was going to be the #2guy and Gurley didn't play last night. I'd assume he got plenty of reps with the 1s if that is true. Either way it isn't uncommon to see YPC numbers like that at times from backs that get that many carries(18)
 
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drvenner said:
I was just thinking about him the other day. Care to give cliffnotes? I really don't want to venture over to the FF. FYI, he has been full Debbie Downer for about 5 years or so.
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Cliff notes for LWSVol

2005-2016 (when Fulmer started struggling) Historically, we are a 7 win a year program at best. I don’t expect anything more than that, and neither should anyone else. We won’t be competing for any more championships in my lifetime.

2016 (when he was hearing Blackburn for AD) UT has had leadership problem from the president down. We’ll see if they are willing to change things and hire a guy like Blackburn that could get it done.

2017-present (Since the Haslams caught half the BOT out of town and put Currie in as AD instead of Fulmer or Blackburn) UT has a leadership problem from the president/boosters down. I and about 2,000 other donors are never going to donate money or even set foot Knoxville again. Vols football will never be relevant again in my lifetime. 4 wins per year from here on out, 5 with some lucky bounces.

*the depressing thing is that he’s not really been wrong so far.
 
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BruinVol said:
We said the exact same thing about him last year. With that said I know Larry. He knows nothing more than we do in this case. Just his opinion like last year which he turned out to be correct on
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Go review what it took to go 4-8. we lost three games in the final minute. 2 of which we were ahead or tied and the other we were at the 2 yard line for three plays. we could have been just as easily 7-5 despite the team not caring, despite a fired coach, etc. Spare me the "we said this last year" nonsense.
 
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Larry’s predictions for this year are in bounds though. Judging from practice reports this sounds like a 5 to 7 win team. Not much difference in that range of wins - just a few plays like last year.

I differ long term though. With middle Tennessee producing more talent the future is bright for Tennessee football. We will always be a factor. If Clemson can be elite so can we. They have the same limitations we do (with the exception that they play in an easier conference).
 
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vol2002 said:
Larry’s predictions for this year are in bounds though. Judging from practice reports this sounds like a 5 to 7 win team. Not much difference in that range of wins - just a few plays like last year.

I differ long term though. With middle Tennessee producing more talent the future is bright for Tennessee football. We will always be a factor. If Clemson can be elite so can we. They have the same limitations we do (with the exception that they play in an easier conference).
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On the flip side, how valuable are those practice reports? They get to see less than ten minutes if they’re even allowed at all.
 
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LA Vol said:
I think the coaches pretty much know who's playing where and who's starting against WVU. They're just not announcing it, and the media sees very little. They're not getting much on the record.
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5-7, minutes is not a lot at all. Reporters even mentioned before that a player who they saw all viewing period working on the sideline began running over to position drills as they were walking away from the open viewing portion of practice. Solidified my theory that this staff is not letting anything of importance out and I like that.
 
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utvols88 said:
4-8 wont happen. period. hes a moron for thinking that.
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mrMet said:
He’s the worst. His panties are still so far up his ass from Fulmer getting fired that he’ll never get over it
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He just offered his very non-disparaging opinion to some curious parties. I'm not sure why that means we have to insult the guy.
 
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MrVolton said:
Cliff notes for LWSVol

2005-2016 (when Fulmer started struggling) Historically, we are a 7 win a year program at best. I don’t expect anything more than that, and neither should anyone else. We won’t be competing for any more championships in my lifetime.

2016 (when he was hearing Blackburn for AD) UT has had leadership problem from the president down. We’ll see if they are willing to change things and hire a guy like Blackburn that could get it done.

2017-present (Since the Haslams caught half the BOT out of town and put Currie in as AD instead of Fulmer or Blackburn) UT has a leadership problem from the president/boosters down. I and about 2,000 other donors are never going to donate money or even set foot Knoxville again. Vols football will never be relevant again in my lifetime. 4 wins per year from here on out, 5 with some lucky bounces.

*the depressing thing is that he’s not really been wrong so far.
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He’s been right on the overall state of the program, burn has often been wrong about more day to day, personnel type things.
 
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BruinVol said:
Another poster said he was going to be the #2guy and Gurley didn't play last night. I'd assume he got plenty of reps with the 1s if that is true. Either way it isn't uncommon to see YPC numbers like that at times from backs that get that many carries(18)
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I saw Gurley didn’t play but neither did Goff. Their top 3 WR’s didn’t record a catch and probably didn’t play either. I am guessing their starting line played very little, if at all.
 
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zhangliao04 said:
5-7, minutes is not a lot at all. Reporters even mentioned before that a player who they saw all viewing period working on the sideline began running over to position drills as they were walking away from the open viewing portion of practice. Solidified my theory that this staff is not letting anything of importance out and I like that.
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The media guys get about 5 minutes, and the coaches script that to control what they see and report. It's basically closing practices without technically closing them.
 
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LWS has great sources and for some reason this board is totally disregarding everything he says just as it did last year when he said Butch was in over his head and that we’d have our worst team of all time.

I don’t necessarily agree with his pessimism this year but watching this cycle repeat itself is comical.
 
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LA Vol said:
I think the coaches pretty much know who's playing where and who's starting against WVU. They're just not announcing it, and the media sees very little. They're not getting much on the record.
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It’s smart too because the inevitable second string guy doesn’t “check out” with two weeks to go because he knows he isn’t the starter. Makes your whole team prepare like they’re going to be on the field a lot.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
It’s smart too because the inevitable second string guy doesn’t “check out” with two weeks to go because he knows he isn’t the starter. Makes your whole team prepare like they’re going to be on the field a lot.
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Yep. I have no problem at all with the way they're handling it.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
LWS has great sources and for some reason this board is totally disregarding everything he says just as it did last year when he said Butch was in over his head and that we’d have our worst team of all time.

I don’t necessarily agree with his pessimism this year but watching this cycle repeat itself is comical.
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Like in my game thread where some guy said I had bought the media narrative of the Vols not being good. I paused and tried to recall the last time they undersold the Vols, and I couldn’t remember. They thought we’d get to ATL a couple of Butch years, but generally they’ve got it about right... and certainly haven’t undersold
 
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