To Protect and to Serve II

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"I smell weed and I think your friend has a gun..."

First off, reefer shouldn't be illegal and having a gun is a protected right under the 2A, so the assumption should be that everyone has a gun.

 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Just vote harder lol

A sound spirit of legislation banishing all arbitrary and unnecessary restraint on individual action, shall leave us free to do whatever does not violate the equal rights of another." Thomas Jefferson
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Orangeslice13 said:
Did you watch the video?
Cigarette ash and “hey that other dude looks like the kinda guy who’d have a gun” is probable cause?

Yes. I’d have to agree with you.
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Yep, I watched it. Notice how the cops didn’t even stop at the stop signs, yet, had the gall to pull these guys over. Did anyone hear what they were actually pulled over for?
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Yep, I watched it. Notice how the cops didn’t even stop at the stop signs, yet, had the gall to pull these guys over. Did anyone hear what they were actually pulled over for?
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I usually try to stay away from BLM talking points, but in this particular case, the only thing I can come up with is "driving while black". The "probable cause" they were trying to use only manifested itself AFTER they were pulled over (smelling weed, seeing shakes, the passenger allegedly sitting like he has a gun), unless they were able to draw probable cause and smell weed or see shakes while driving behind them.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I usually try to stay away from BLM talking points, but in this particular case, the only thing I can come up with is "driving while black". The "probable cause" they were trying to use only manifested itself AFTER they were pulled over (smelling weed, seeing shakes, the passenger allegedly sitting like he has a gun), unless they were able to draw probable cause and smell weed or see shakes while driving behind them.
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I certainly didn’t see any traffic infractions.
 
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Why did this particular video become public? Hopefully the guy that got pulled over filed a complaint is the reason. This kind of BS stuff happens all over the country every day. It happened to me when I was young because I didn't fully stop at a stop sign or I had a license plate bulb out. The police's #1 job shouldn't be to intimidate and harass people that they think they can.
 
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VolStrom said:
Why did this particular video become public? Hopefully the guy that got pulled over filed a complaint is the reason. This kind of BS stuff happens all over the country every day. It happened to me when I was young because I didn't fully stop at a stop sign or I had a license plate bulb out. The police's #1 job shouldn't be to intimidate and harass people that they think they can.
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As long as you still have a group of people out here that are satisfied with the law enforcement practices and training we have right now, it will be an uphill battle.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
As long as you still have a group of people out here that are satisfied with the law enforcement practices and training we have right now, it will be an uphill battle.
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I'm not anti law enforcement, I just don't understand why a lot of LEO's need to be dick's.
I can understand how it's a hard job dealing with the trash of society, but they seem to forget that some of the people they pull over are just trying to get home after a long day at work.
 
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k-town_king said:
That video has happened to me at least 40-50 times. It's part of being black in America.
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Are you sure? Because in the NFL thread there's a lot of white dudes who've never had this experience and say that being mad at cops for social injustice is unwarranted.

Surely their anecdotal opinions are more accurate than you first-hand experience, so again - are you sure?
 
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I do not believe training is solely to blame. A person’s mental stability and character are variables that training, in most cases, can’t overcome. People are who they are, and unwarranted power entrusted to a “Fife” is perilously stupid!

We have as much or more of a selection issue than a training issue, IMHO.
 
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Squints said:
I do not believe training is solely to blame. A person’s mental stability and character are variables that training, in most cases, can’t overcome. People are who they are, and unwarranted power entrusted to a “Fife” is perilously stupid!

We have as much or more of a selection issue than a training issue, IMHO.
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I think there is more to the selection issue as well. I'd dare say the majority of those who pursue law enforcement have good intentions. However, the profession has become marred by the idiot few and it has become a profession seen as undesirable. In essence, the quality of recruits has slipped and it's getting harder to put good candidates into the spots available.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I think there is more to the selection issue as well. I'd dare say the majority of those who pursue law enforcement have good intentions. However, the profession has become marred by the idiot few and it has become a profession seen as undesirable. In essence, the quality of recruits has slipped and it's getting harder to put good candidates into the spots available.
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I agree the majority are good men, it's the other 40% that ruin it for the rest. The problem is it only takes one ass hat to brand the rest as jerks. I was face planted into my trunk when I was 16-17 years old because I didn't pull over fast enough for an unmarked car flashing his lights. I've hated cops ever since.
 
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Septic said:
Are you sure? Because in the NFL thread there's a lot of white dudes who've never had this experience and say that being mad at cops for social injustice is unwarranted.

Surely there anecdotal opinions are more accurate than you first-hand experience, so again - are you sure?
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No mountain of data or first hand experiences will ever convince some people.

Yea. Now that I am older, drive a nice car, and dress in business attire usually it doesn’t happen as much. I can’t tell you how many times I have been pulled over though. With nothing being found of course.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
"I smell weed and I think your friend has a gun..."

First off, reefer shouldn't be illegal and having a gun is a protected right under the 2A, so the assumption should be that everyone has a gun.

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This one was a screw job from the get go, I'm glad the young man kept his wits about him.
 
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