'18 GA LB JJ Peterson (Tennessee signee)

[Volnukem]

My point, or question was, that this year we rejected the one linebacker due to a lack of spot, because JJ has it, putting us at the 85 cap. Next cycle I have heard we might not be taking a full 25 due to roster space, so, if JJ doesn't make it in this year and chooses to go elsewhere, that should give us the room to get to 25 or closer.

We are at 84 right now counting JJ

 

[swchandler1988]

the strip is terrible now. can you even really call it the strip anymore? just looks like any other street in America lined with chain restaurants and shopping centers.

Cool Beans and Half Barrel are the only two bars left that are worth anything

 

[JFreak]

Serious question because I don’t know... has any Tennessee player flunked out and couldn’t play ball because of grades?

Add Dennis Rogan to the list. They usually don't flunk out, but "leave early" before they officially become academically ineligible.

 

[jakez4ut]

Cool Beans and Half Barrel are the only two bars left that are worth anything

cool beans came on i think in my last year there in 97 so i'm not overly familiar with it, other than to say i went back for a game a few years after i graduated and me and my girlfriend went in there, and it became pretty apparent we were like grandparents compared to the kids in that place lol....

the strip was awesome when i was there. so sad to see what it has become.

 

[swchandler1988]

cool beans came on i think in my last year there in 97 so i'm not overly familiar with it, other than to say i went back for a game a few years after i graduated and me and my girlfriend went in there, and it became pretty apparent we were like grandparents compared to the kids in that place lol....

the strip was awesome when i was there. so sad to see what it has become.

Look really “nice” but you’re right, it’s not the strip anymore really

 

[3rdDegreeVol]

My point, or question was, that this year we rejected the one linebacker due to a lack of spot, because JJ has it, putting us at the 85 cap. Next cycle I have heard we might not be taking a full 25 due to roster space, so, if JJ doesn't make it in this year and chooses to go elsewhere, that should give us the room to get to 25 or closer.

If he signed paperwork (NLI, offer of financial aid, or financial aid agreement) then he counts against the 25 this year whether or not he makes it in. He wouldn't, however, count against the 85.

 

[Kinglberry]

We are at 84 right now counting JJ

Then why not take Lawless, that was the supposed reason, no room for him.

 

[Kinglberry]

If he signed paperwork (NLI, offer of financial aid, or financial aid agreement) then he counts against the 25 this year whether or not he makes it in. He wouldn't, however, count against the 85.

I understand that part, but if he isn't here next year, then we get that spot back and while the loss of him would suck, we might get an equivalent replacement.

 

[LA Vol]

We signed a full 25 in this class and we're not getting any of those spots back. You sign; you count against the 25. You enroll on an athletic scholarship and you count against the 85.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I understand that part, but if he isn't here next year, then we get that spot back and while the loss of him would suck, we might get an equivalent replacement.

If he is a great player now, he will be a great player then. I want him to be a Vol, Juco or not. We just have to stay on him...5* LBs are really hard to come by, so I don't see him getting "recruited over".

 

[SSVol]

If he is a great player now, he will be a great player then. I want him to be a Vol, Juco or not. We just have to stay on him...5* LBs are really hard to come by, so I don't see him getting "recruited over".

Well done McGill. It is possible that he both doesn't get in now and does eventually become a Vol. Such a statement is both realistic and optimistic at the same time.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Well done McGill. It is possible that he both doesn't get in now and does eventually become a Vol. Such a statement is both realistic and optimistic at the same time.

I just think the kid really wants to be a Vol and play for Pruitt. I don't see how going juco for a season is going to change that..unless he either plays horrible, or doesn't do his schoolwork at juco.

 

[McGeesPub]

Well, I'm an engineer. We're boring.

I'm sure there are some other threads around here with riveting discussions related to food, movies, music, shows, dog flatulence, LBJ, soccer, baseball, D4H's delusions, etc.

I’m good in this one. As good as you are, anyway.

 

[BruinVol]

We are at 84 right now counting JJ

You sure?

I think JJ is 85

 

[SugarCC]

That is what all these tough guys saying he gone are doing. They're all afraid to expect something good and be heartbroken if it doesn't happen. It's one approach I guess. I'll continue to expect him to get in until after the actual deadline next week or until he enrolls somewhere else. If he's not here after next week I will very quickly get over it and move on.

S, have you ever thought about what it's like and how exhausting it must be to be doom and gloom ALL THE TIME? I feel sorry for those who are. To be so beaten down that you trash and trash your favorite team, to be happy (it seems) when a top recruit can't make it in or doesnt pan out, to argue over and over with someone who is optimistic and fired up, to laugh at those who refuse to allow the past and past coaches to bend them over and continue to put the screw to them. There's a couple in here that I love dearly (one from the dark hills of Kentucky), they are true-blue Vols...but, I feel sorry for them. Id just quit if I ever allowed it to get me so down, that I can't boom when it's time to boom, or if I ever feel some slight joy when things go wrong, so I can say 'i told you so'. There are some, right now, who are worried sick about Wanya flipping. The joy of him being committed to us has never crossed their minds, because they are too busy waiting for him to flip. Can you imagine?!?!
Sorry about the rant...it's just...wow, you know.

 

[Batman1948]

We signed a full 25 in this class and we're not getting any of those spots back. You sign; you count against the 25. You enroll on an athletic scholarship and you count against the 85.

I don't understand why some folks just cant understand this concept. Math must be really hard for some folks.

 

[SaguaroVols]

the strip is terrible now. can you even really call it the strip anymore? just looks like any other street in America lined with chain restaurants and shopping centers.

Went to UT back in 93-97. The library/lap and OCharleys were the places to go on the strip. Shane Burton sure knew how to get his way around there. Frat guys went to OCI and sorority girls Hannahs.

Great times

 

[jakez4ut]

Went to UT back in 93-97. The library/lap and OCharleys were the places to go on the strip. Shane Burton sure knew how to get his way around there. Frat guys went to OCI and sorority girls Hannahs.

Great times

yep, i was there during the same time. and yeah, Shane Burton and Bill Duff got around. i'll never forget me and a buddy were in line for one of the bars, maybe the Library for a show? anyway, we had kinda met these two girls and were hanging out in the line, things were going well....then Burton and Duff showed up behind us in the line.

next thing we knew, the girls were behinds in the line too................

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

S, have you ever thought about what it's like and how exhausting it must be to be doom and gloom ALL THE TIME? I feel sorry for those who are. To be so beaten down that you trash and trash your favorite team, to be happy (it seems) when a top recruit can't make it in or doesnt pan out, to argue over and over with someone who is optimistic and fired up, to laugh at those who refuse to allow the past and past coaches to bend them over and continue to put the screw to them. There's a couple in here that I love dearly (one from the dark hills of Kentucky), they are true-blue Vols...but, I feel sorry for them. Id just quit if I ever allowed it to get me so down, that I can't boom when it's time to boom, or if I ever feel some slight joy when things go wrong, so I can say 'i told you so'. There are some, right now, who are worried sick about Wanya flipping. The joy of him being committed to us has never crossed their minds, because they are too busy waiting for him to flip. Can you imagine?!?!
Sorry about the rant...it's just...wow, you know.

I am not doom and gloom about JJ, i have been pretty optimistic that he will be a Vol when all is said and done. I think it is pretty obvious to anybody not afflicted with Opieitis to see he probably is not going to make it in this fall. Go check out my posts in committ threads, I am not bashing three stars and predicting pestilence if we don't get better than this. You don't like anybody ever being realistic, and you don't like anybody defending their stance. I do not really like to be argumentative, andI will readily admit when I'm proven wrong. I will change my mind when presented with a good argument, but I will not ever just go along and make fluffy unicorns prancing on rainbows, eating pixie flowers, and farting fairy dust posts when I feel differently about it. It doesn't make me popular, but it does make me honest.

 

[BigorangeBoy]

I worked at the Tap Room in 79-80 when I was an Undergrad. On dinner break I would go next door to OCI and get a bowl of jalapenos and a plate of crackers.

The guy that owned the Tap Room at that time was a retired opera singer named Richard Schram, he also played football at Penn State. The people that managed the bar for him were a married couple named Jim and Lucille Jones, we always called them the Cult of the Damned...

 

[butchna]

My point, or question was, that this year we rejected the one linebacker due to a lack of spot, because JJ has it, putting us at the 85 cap. Next cycle I have heard we might not be taking a full 25 due to roster space, so, if JJ doesn't make it in this year and chooses to go elsewhere, that should give us the room to get to 25 or closer.

We won’t be taking 25 because of the newly strictly enforced 25 man class limit. We had 23 this past class because of Shaq Wiggins (graduate transfer) and Princeton Fant (blueshirt). We filled that up and were forced to poach 3 2019 spots with GT’s Kennedy, Chryst and London...so we have 22. Not enrolling Lawless and/or Peterson doesn’t take off those numbers. They’re initial counters. It was never the 85 roster limit that made Lawless a no go. It was the 25 new SCHOLARSHIPS per academic year. Kennedy made 24 and with Lawless not qualifying til late, they saved the last spot for Peterson. They can add 25 in 2019 but three have to be grad transfers since the NCAA has restricted blueshirts for high school players.

 

[Sleegro]

S, have you ever thought about what it's like and how exhausting it must be to be doom and gloom ALL THE TIME? I feel sorry for those who are. To be so beaten down that you trash and trash your favorite team, to be happy (it seems) when a top recruit can't make it in or doesnt pan out, to argue over and over with someone who is optimistic and fired up, to laugh at those who refuse to allow the past and past coaches to bend them over and continue to put the screw to them. There's a couple in here that I love dearly (one from the dark hills of Kentucky), they are true-blue Vols...but, I feel sorry for them. Id just quit if I ever allowed it to get me so down, that I can't boom when it's time to boom, or if I ever feel some slight joy when things go wrong, so I can say 'i told you so'. There are some, right now, who are worried sick about Wanya flipping. The joy of him being committed to us has never crossed their minds, because they are too busy waiting for him to flip. Can you imagine?!?!
Sorry about the rant...it's just...wow, you know.

I mean I get it. The last few years have been rough for this team. I've tried that route. It just doesn't suit me. Being optimistic and dealing with the disappointment is way more natural to me than trying to convince myself to lower expectations to avoid disappointment. Everyone is different I guess. Won't stop me from bringing my perspective to these debates though and calling out overly negative opinions. I think what makes this board better than most is it's not too overly positive with no pessimistic points of view. It's important to have both. I normally just try to counter the overly negative with reasons to step back from the ledge. I don't really take anything personally though.

 

[jakez4ut]

i think you can do both. your heart and head tell you different things all the time. generally, sunday thru thursday my head tells me one thing. on friday and saturday, i've convinced my self i was wrong, and then sunday, i say "why did i do that do that to myself?"

rinse and repeat for about 12 weeks. lol.

 

[SaguaroVols]

yep, i was there during the same time. and yeah, Shane Burton and Bill Duff got around. i'll never forget me and a buddy were in line for one of the bars, maybe the Library for a show? anyway, we had kinda met these two girls and were hanging out in the line, things were going well....then Burton and Duff showed up behind us in the line.

next thing we knew, the girls were behinds in the line too................

Forgot about Duff, didnt see him around as much.

David Horn, Scott Pfeiffer, John Sartelle, Todd Helton, and Peyton would always be around and stand out as well. They would be hanging at the frat parties as well (Sigma Chi)

Saw Eli at the Library with the group as a 16 year old and drinking a pint and the cops/bouncers looking the other way. No biggie.

Then Bar Knoxville happened. That changed the whole bar scene and the attitude towards the players.

 

[SugarCC]

I am not doom and gloom about JJ, i have been pretty optimistic that he will be a Vol when all is said and done. I think it is pretty obvious to anybody not afflicted with Opieitis to see he probably is not going to make it in this fall. Go check out my posts in committ threads, I am not bashing three stars and predicting pestilence if we don't get better than this. You don't like anybody ever being realistic, and you don't like anybody defending their stance. I do not really like to be argumentative, andI will readily admit when I'm proven wrong. I will change my mind when presented with a good argument, but I will not ever just go along and make fluffy unicorns prancing on rainbows, eating pixie flowers, and farting fairy dust posts when I feel differently about it. It doesn't make me popular, but it does make me honest.

So, you think just because someone is optimistic and positive in every way is not being honest? I can see where one might think that, I do.
I waited for yrs for someone like Jeremy Pruitt to come along, yrs before I finally joined VN; because over these last yrs, ive really had nothing good to say. Am i a "sunshine pumper"? I guess...I'm just being honest as well. Do I believe JJ is going to make it in? I'm holding out hope, it's definitely looking grim; but, u will NEVER see me come in here and say, 'he gone' or something else to spread my misery, especially 1 or 2 months prior to now, like some of these cats have been doing. And I'm not saying you have done this Ulysees, not at all, not to the extent of what I'm talking about; buddy I can handle you feeling down and the post that come with it, because it seems, as you said, honest. You're jaded, and have every right to be, as we all do; but, some, and you know them as well as I do, come here JUST TO spread their misery, and gloat when their misery turns into reality.
I hope this makes sense. McGill, you're true-blue, buddy. I know and have felt every blow that the Kiffin's and Hamilton's and Hart's and Dooley's and Jones's and Haslam's has inflicted upon us, as well. But I chose now to join VN, because I TRULY believe it to be a new day on Rocky Top. I have ABSOLUTE trust and faith in Jeremy Pruitt, and believe me, I NEVER thought that I would ever say that about a Bammer. But that's just it, he's a Vol, he's my coach...and I don't have a single doubt he is the one to get us back to where we rightfully belong. Go Vols, my brother!