Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[5FingerVolPunch]

So you're saying Kongbo answers the age-old question "What if Lebron played football?"

Michael Jordan would have been better

 

[Vols4us]

Hopefully Taylor and Kongbo do some of this...

Taylor could start at Bama IMO. We will get to see him really do his thing for the first time this fall. Can't wait.

 

[Rishvol]

Hopefully Taylor and Kongbo do some of this...

Wouldn't that be more Bituli and Kirkland?

 

[mrMet]

Hopefully Taylor and Kongbo do some of this...

And Warrior or Flowers when a receiver crosses the middle

 

[Kingston Vol]

Player development has been crazy impressive in the last 10 months. Strength staff really got our players to buy in quickly which allowed the football staff to mold them as they see fit.

 

[GoVolsDR]

So you're saying Kongbo answers the age-old question "What if Lebron played football?"

Guys like Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates have already answered that question

 

[Ron Swanson]

Wouldn't that be more Bituli and Kirkland?

Sure, them too.

 

[Brillovol]

Losing the Roman numerals for this this thread is like taking them off of the Olympics. I'm already having withdrawals.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Taylor could start at Bama IMO. We will get to see him really do his thing for the first time this fall. Can't wait.

He's definitely confident. I enjoyed his media interview last week. He gave a couple smiles while holding back some of that confidence. Can't wait to see him develop this fall and next.

 

[ChattaTNVol]

We will have a lot of talent and age likely starting on defense.

 

[zhangliao04]

Yes, he's that athletic #3/#4 that could slash and break the backboard with a slam. Straight ahead speed on the break with somebody like him would be awesome to watch.

So he isn't a 5?

 

[roosterjbh]

We will have a lot of talent and age likely starting on defense.

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I didn’t realize how much weight Kongbo has dropped. 25 pounds or more?

 

[AppStVol]

Many of those guys don't fit the schemes, especially the new defense. Add that to the fact that this staff is likely going to lean on the new guys and most of the guys above will be on special teams and scout teams. It's not that they're terrible players, they just don't fit in the new schemes and coaches always want to play guys they brought in over leftover guys who might have bad workout habits and been underdeveloped or w/e.

Im just curious how much we can trust VQ's knowledge and understanding of this new scheme. Biscuit Bennett and Butler were both said to not be a good fit for the last scheme also.

I get the undersized LB's like Reid and Page probably never being a factor outside of sub packages or teams, however 56 and 95 are both undersized 4-3 DT's who should slot much better in this 3-4 look at the 5 Tech. It's looking like a situation where they just are not SEC level DL if they cannot get in the rotation.

 

[volfanCLT]

I didn’t realize how much weight Kongbo has dropped. 25 pounds or more?

Yeah I remember he was up around 280 the year Butch moved him to DT

 

[Freak]

Didn’t we have a joke thread that would never end years ago- like before the recruiting forum existed. I think it was a OWB thread. Could be wrong though, I was single then and spent too much time on here. Crazy to think that was 15 years ago. How old is volnation @Freak

Started in 2003.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Im just curious how much we can trust VQ's knowledge and understanding of this new scheme. Biscuit Bennett and Butler were both said to not be a good fit for the last scheme also.

I get the undersized LB's like Reid and Page probably never being a factor outside of sub packages or teams, however 56 and 95 are both undersized 4-3 DT's who should slot much better in this 3-4 look at the 5 Tech. It's looking like a situation where they just are not SEC level DL if they cannot get in the rotation.

Butler has the ability. VQ keeps saying he's overthinking things, almost too technical. He's got plenty of time to contribute. I like the kid, hope he earns some PT.

 

[LA Vol]

Do you think shamburger starts at safety and when he slides to star in sub packages micah goes in at safety?

IMO, the wild card is TKJr. He's the best leader in the secondary. He's healthy for the first time in two years, so if he can get most of his speed back, he could play a big role. Theo Jackson could end up being a good backup, too. Shamburger seems better at nickel or corner, but I think the coaches are still trying them at multiple positions.

 

[VolGee4]

Couldn’t care less who wins. Just think it’s funny media get to watch 10 minutes of stretching and a little throwing and they base whole opinions on it and then work around scrimmage notes to fit what they said. If JG wins I’m all for it. If KC wins I’m all for it. I want whoever is going to win the most games this year.

Hubbs is a little different because of his position with the Vol Network. He can get insight from people who actually are at the practices. Not saying that he can't be wrong, but I don't believe he just goes by what he sees himself.

 

[Glitch]

Didn’t we have a joke thread that would never end years ago- like before the recruiting forum existed. I think it was a OWB thread. Could be wrong though, I was single then and spent too much time on here. Crazy to think that was 15 years ago. How old is volnation @Freak

It is unpolite to ask how old a website is. Where are your manners?

 

[SpringBokVol]

I am already sick of waiting.

I am ready for football.

Come on.

 

[Glitch]

Finding out the Roman numerals are gone...

 

[DaUndergroundMan]

FTR, “actual completion percentage” is a silly, made up stat that nobody except for you uses.

LOL, its the way the NFL does it. Ncaa only counts sacks as running attempts because of archaic offenses where the qb was often tackled in the backfield on an actual running attempt.

Tell me why it's ok that dormady hurt his completion percentage every time he wisely threw the ball away, and guarantano helped his every time he held the ball and took a ten yard loss. Which is indicative of a better qb? Which hurts your team more. Format took all of four sacks in almost as many opportunities as jg had. Jg took 26 sacks. Study of sack percentages show they often follow a quarterback around, rather than an offensive line...like Robb Johnson for instance.

 

[butchna]

LOL, its the way the NFL does it. Ncaa only counts sacks as running attempts because of archaic offenses where the qb was often tackled in the backfield on an actual running attempt.

Tell me why it's ok that dormady hurt his completion percentage every time he wisely threw the ball away, and guarantano helped his every time he held the ball and took a ten yard loss. Which is indicative of a better qb? Which hurts your team more. Format took all of four sacks in almost as many opportunities as jg had. Jg took 26 sacks. Study of sack percentages show they often follow a quarterback around, rather than an offensive line...like Robb Johnson for instance.

The NFL doesn’t count sacks as pass attempts. In Troy Aikman’s first two seasons his completion percentage would have been in the negative...and they would have made a horror film based on David Carr’s!

 

[Sleegro]

LOL, its the way the NFL does it. Ncaa only counts sacks as running attempts because of archaic offenses where the qb was often tackled in the backfield on an actual running attempt.

Tell me why it's ok that dormady hurt his completion percentage every time he wisely threw the ball away, and guarantano helped his every time he held the ball and took a ten yard loss. Which is indicative of a better qb? Which hurts your team more. Format took all of four sacks in almost as many opportunities as jg had. Jg took 26 sacks. Study of sack percentages show they often follow a quarterback around, rather than an offensive line...like Robb Johnson for instance.

The nfl does not count sacks as a pass attempt. They count them as negative team passing yards. Sacks dont touch a QBs individual stats at all in the nfl because they are more of a team stat than individual.

 

[WinginFlorida]

Couldn’t care less who wins. Just think it’s funny media get to watch 10 minutes of stretching and a little throwing and they base whole opinions on it and then work around scrimmage notes to fit what they said. If JG wins I’m all for it. If KC wins I’m all for it. I want whoever is going to win the most games this year.

Observing stretching and warm-ups can often times prove to be rather valuable...