Kiffin still holding on

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VolForLife83 said:
Imo, yeah he did
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After seeing how Penn State managed to reassert itself after what they went through, I find it hard to blame a guy who coached here for one season for us being in the football wilderness for 10 years. Sorry but our problems started at the top with the administration. They didn't vet Kiffin thoroughly enough to realize he was a risky hire, and they panicked after he left and hired the first bait bucket that came along instead of doing what they should have, which is appoint Kippy Brown as interim until better coaches would become available.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
After seeing how Penn State managed to reassert itself after what they went through, I find it hard to blame a guy who coached here for one season for us being in the football wilderness for 10 years. Sorry but our problems started at the top with the administration. They didn't vet Kiffin thoroughly enough to realize he was a risky hire, and they panicked after he left and hired the first bait bucket that came along instead of doing what they should have, which is appoint Kippy Brown as interim until better coaches would become available.
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I understand that, but him leaving started all this. No one hires a football coach on a 1 year bases. No one wanted this job after he left cause of the fear of him leaving dirt behind. He ran our players off, recruited thugs, and tried to take what he was recruiting. Then people wonder why Bryce Brown was so screwed up. You simply don't come to a program as prestigious as this and leave in the middle of the night. Dream job or not, that's bad business. You don't leave your wife at ther alter cause your old high school flame shows up.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
There's a mental condition, I forget what it's called, where the person believes himself to be the only real person in the universe. Everyone else is an "extra," not of equal importance or value, at the extreme not even real.

Folks who suffer from this condition find it impossible to see from any perspective but their own. They simply do not have the ability to consider another person's perspective.

I think Kiffin may have that condition. It would make a lot of sense with things he has said and done over the years.
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It’s called being a sociopath
 
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Kiffin is the reason why our administration was forced to make a last minute hire that ended up resulting in Derek Doofus.

You want to leave for another job opportunity? Cool, I get it.

What’s not cool is leaving in the middle of the night without giving any kind of indication to your current employer.

He took the cowards way out which is the main reason he’s disliked by UT.
 
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The ONLY thing I fault Kiffin for is recruiting a bunch of eventual wash outs. The character of his recruiting class left our program very unstable.
 
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VolForLife83 said:
I understand that, but him leaving started all this. No one hires a football coach on a 1 year bases. No one wanted this job after he left cause of the fear of him leaving dirt behind. He ran our players off, recruited thugs, and tried to take what he was recruiting. Then people wonder why Bryce Brown was so screwed up. You simply don't come to a program as prestigious as this and leave in the middle of the night. Dream job or not, that's bad business. You don't leave your wife at ther alter cause your old high school flame shows up.
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I agree Kiffin did a lot of damage, but "Fahr Fulmer" is what started this.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
I agree Kiffin did a lot of damage, but "Fahr Fulmer" is what started this.
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I have always been a supporter of Phil and appreciated his dedication to UT however, at the end of his tenure, it was time for him to be fahred. UT officials then hired a punk, and we got exactly just that. Plus, I am still surprised to this day that Kiffin and Saban worked together for as long as they did
 
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I doubt he sat down for an interview specifically for that. They wrote a whole article based off one quote.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
After seeing how Penn State managed to reassert itself after what they went through, I find it hard to blame a guy who coached here for one season for us being in the football wilderness for 10 years. Sorry but our problems started at the top with the administration. They didn't vet Kiffin thoroughly enough to realize he was a risky hire, and they panicked after he left and hired the first bait bucket that came along instead of doing what they should have, which is appoint Kippy Brown as interim until better coaches would become available.
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I knew we were in trouble when I read that Kiffin was in Knoxville playing golf with the A D. I figured that he was begging for the job
I am young. I coached in the NFL. I coached in PAC 10 at a top 10 program. I can relate to the young players. I can bring my dad and Oregon to be coaches. So A D got lazy and didn't do a thorough search from that point onward
 
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VolForLife83 said:
I understand that, but him leaving started all this. No one hires a football coach on a 1 year bases. No one wanted this job after he left cause of the fear of him leaving dirt behind. He ran our players off, recruited thugs, and tried to take what he was recruiting. Then people wonder why Bryce Brown was so screwed up. You simply don't come to a program as prestigious as this and leave in the middle of the night. Dream job or not, that's bad business. You don't leave your wife at ther alter cause your old high school flame shows up.
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Why Not? High school flames are a lot of fun!
 
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VolForLife83 said:
I understand that, but him leaving started all this. No one hires a football coach on a 1 year bases. No one wanted this job after he left cause of the fear of him leaving dirt behind. He ran our players off, recruited thugs, and tried to take what he was recruiting. Then people wonder why Bryce Brown was so screwed up. You simply don't come to a program as prestigious as this and leave in the middle of the night. Dream job or not, that's bad business. You don't leave your wife at ther alter cause your old high school flame shows up.
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It depends on what the old flame looks like as compared to the wife;)
 
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VolForLife83 said:
I think it might be the fact that you practically spit in our face, set us back into what we are now and used us like we weren't nothing to you. Like football ain't nothing down here



https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/t...ans-were-mad-at-him-when-he-left-for-usc/amp/
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For me it was always the how of the matter and not the what. Yeah he left us at a bad time. But it was the middle of the night thing, wasn't going to have a press conference or tell his players, until he got caught. Calling up recruits/early enrollees telling them to transfer. I was on campus and knew some players thru classes and him not wanting to talk to them upset them all. understandably imo. thats the stuff that left a bad taste in my mouth.

of course half the board still considers him to be the Offensive minded version of Neyland.
 
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LouderVol said:
For me it was always the how of the matter and not the what. Yeah he left us at a bad time. But it was the middle of the night thing, wasn't going to have a press conference or tell his players, until he got caught. Calling up recruits/early enrollees telling them to transfer. I was on campus and knew some players thru classes and him not wanting to talk to them upset them all. understandably imo. thats the stuff that left a bad taste in my mouth.

of course half the board still considers him to be the Offensive minded version of Neyland.
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I thought Monte Kiffin was even more arrogant than Lame Kiffin was.
 
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