How Many Wins This Fall?

How many regular season WINS do you predict for UT this Fall? (excluding a potential bowl game)

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#126
#126
I originally thought 7, counting bowl game, but I'll going full blown homer...going with 8 now...;)

GO VOLS!
 
#128
#128
The Dog said:
It wouldn't. Just saying UT will split those 2 games to get to 8 wins. Remember I'm an eternal optimist
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Is there some sort of connection between those two games? What about winning or losing the WV game, makes a win or a loss against USCe, more or less likely?
 
#129
#129
BeardedVol said:
Is there some sort of connection between those two games? What about winning or losing the WV game, makes a win or a loss against USCe, more or less likely?
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To get to 8 wins, imo, UT has to win one of these 2 games. I have Georgia, Auburn and Bama as for sure losses. We win the other 3 OOC cupcakes, Florida, Vandy, Ky, Mizzou and one of WV and SC. I consider the WV and SC games as the 50/50 games in my eternal optimism. Got it ?
 
#130
#130
The Dog said:
To get to 8 wins, imo, UT has to win one of these 2 games. I have Georgia, Auburn and Bama as for sure losses. We win the other 3 OOC cupcakes, Florida, Vandy, Ky, Mizzou and one of WV and SC. I consider the WV and SC games as the 50/50 games in my eternal optimism. Got it ?
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So back to your original statement:

The Dog said:
I'm thinking if we do lose to West Virginia then we get the win back against the 'Cocks.
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What is the inverse transitive property that exists between these two games, where losing one makes a win in the other more likely?
 
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#131
#131
BeardedVol said:
So back to your original statement:



What is the inverse transitive property that exists between these two games, where losing one makes a win in the other more likely?
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damn it, Bearded, there's not one. I was just trying to explain how UT gets to 8 wins. I really think we beat WV, but if we don't, I think we pull the upset over SC and still get that 8th win. Why I think that, because it still equals 8 wins and makes my prediction, right. Why is this such a big deal to u ? I don't see u breaking down everybody else's prediction. What's your prediction and who do u have UT beating and losing to ?
 
#132
#132
The Dog said:
damn it, Bearded, there's not one. I was just trying to explain how UT gets to 8 wins. I really think we beat WV, but if we don't, I think we pull the upset over SC and still get that 8th win. Why I think that, because it still equals 8 wins and makes my prediction, right. Why is this such a big deal to u ? I don't see u breaking down everybody else's prediction. What's your prediction and who do u have UT beating and losing to ?
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Your statement reads as if you are linking the outcome of the WV game, to the outcome of the USCe game. As if winning or losing WV game, has some sort of impact on the likelihood of winning the USCe game. In your mind, what makes pulling an upset over USCe more likely, if we lose to WV?

I don't make individual game predictions this far in advance, but I'd say if you simulated the season a 1000 times in a statistical model, the range of 5-7 wins would probably be the most common outcome on the curve.
 
#133
#133
BeardedVol said:
Your statement reads as if you are linking the outcome of the WV game, to the outcome of the USCe game. As if winning or losing WV game, has some sort of impact on the likelihood of winning the USCe game. In your mind, what makes pulling an upset over USCe more likely, if we lose to WV?

I don't make individual game predictions this far in advance, but I'd say if you simulated the season a 1000 times in a statistical model, the range of 5-7 wins would probably be the most common outcome on the curve.
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The main point is getting to 8 wins to make my prediction right. I think UT splits these 2 games because they are the 50/50 games, imo. Does one game really have a bearing on the other ? Not really. I just think these 2 games will decide if UT is 9-3, 8-4, or 7-5 and since I predicted 8-4, I think UT wins one and loses one. Once the season starts, it because a moot point anyway. Then I will take in account what each team has shown me, game by game. But as of right now, this is how I'm predicting the season to go and added in what games I thought UT would win and lose and those 2 games are the ones I'm not sure of. Now do u understand where I am coming from ?

Let's say WV beats UT by 20+ and we go into the SC game at 2-5 and they are 6-1, then there would be no way in hell that I would predict UT to win no matter what I predicted in this silly poll. Same thing if we beat WV and upset Auburn, going in to face a 3-4 SC team and UTs 5-2, then I'm predicting UT to win and sweep WV and SC.

So the moral of the story, I am just trying to explain how I got to 8-4, whether it makes sense or not, to u
 
#134
#134
Denton'sGhostGBO said:
I once saw an Auburn team that finished 3-9 go 12-2 the next year and lose in the national championship game. Sometimes it isn't the players, but the environment and coaching they are receiving... Our Head Coach was on the team that beat them..

Now realistically I say 8-4 with a bowl win in Nashville to make up 9-4.
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Wasn't that the year they gave out the blank Colonial Bank ATM cards loaded with cash along with a few bags of well laundered bags of casino chips?
 
#136
#136
Rudy123 said:
I think we lose 1 or 2 that we shouldn't lose and finish 5 - 7.

Look at our history! We have more upset losses than we have upset wins in the schools history.
Lost to an inferior Florida team at least 12 times. Lost to Wyoming. Lost to an inferior O'Bama team about 10 times. Lost to Ky. twice, since I have been an avid fan. Lost to Vandy about 5 times in the past 10 years. Lost to a couple of inferior Missouri teams. Lost to an inferior Penn State team 3 or 4 times.

Beat U of Miami in Sugar Bowl. Come from behind win against LSU with Rick Clausen as Q.B. Beat UGA a couple of times when we were the underdog. Beat Ohio State with Eddie George, Terry Glenn etc. etc.
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UF was favored in about all of their wins though and UT was actually an underdog in some of the other upset losses you mention as well. There have definitely been times UT lost to UF when they shouldn’t have but going into the game UF was favored. Last year is a great example of that scenario. Generally speaking, if we are talking about the good UT times then it makes sense they wouldn’t have many upset wins as they were rarely underdogs.
 
#138
#138
FLVOL_79 said:
6 is the ceiling. Expecting 5 or less mainly because while the team returns a bunch of players its returing a bunch of players from the worst team in 121 years of Tennessee football.
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i COULD NOT AGREE MORE- LAST YEARS BUNCH WAS A DISGRACE- I WILL NOT ATTEND A SINGLE GAME THIS YEAR.
 
#143
#143
LakeMaryFLVol said:
Wasn't that the year they gave out the blank Colonial Bank ATM cards loaded with cash along with a few bags of well laundered bags of casino chips?
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I never heard that. Now 2010 with Cam the Scam those allegations were flying here in Bama. Ill look it up, but I could give you a Porsche, but I bet it wouldn't help you run a 4.4 40.. So the moral of my quip was that we have talent, with some solid offer list on this roster, they just need to be reminded how and what football is. It's not checkerneyland(albiet was cool) or acting like a grey uni from 1456 was an official color thus bringing out the alternative uniform. Now I'm just rambling, but I think ya know what I mean.
 
#144
#144
This is a year were everything hinges on the play of the QB, I believe Pruitt and company improve the whole defense, sideline management will superior compared to previous coaches (sorry, forgot her name). I hope everyone agrees, we lost games because of the vanilla offense and the sideline was laughable.
 
#145
#145
Rudy123 said:
We will beat UTEP, ETSU, Charlotte, Vandy & Ky. Lose to Missouri, West Virginia Mountain Queers, O'Bama, Florida, Auburn, Georgia & South Carolina
Unsettled Q.B. position. No real depth on defense. New scheme on offense & defense
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Doesn't Fla have the exact same issue but even less QB experience than us. Being at home should shift the advantage to us. Plus who knows who Fla could have suspended by then. We have no business losing to Mizzou at home with Dooley as their new OC and a team who didn't beat 1 team with a winning record last yr. W.Va, Fla and Mizzou are all winnable. None of those we had more than 7 wins and none are at the opponent's home field. Not saying we win all 3, but they definitely are very winnable games and each has their own set of question marks and issues. But saying we lose to Fla because of QB questions and new scheme's can't be used. They are very unproven at QB and have new schemes on both sides of the ball. Not to mention, the almost daily off the field Issues they are having. If we played in the Swamp then it's advantage Fla just like with Mizzou and W.Va. I definitely count Ala, Ga and Aub as losses and the 3 teams who have more talent than us based off recruiting rankings. Counting SC as a loss too because it's in SC and we haven't beaten Muschamp yet. That's a close, toss up game every year. 7-5 or 8-4 aren't unrealistic. We will see soon. Everyone's guess is as good as another.
 
#146
#146
The Original Fade said:
We don’t know how to win yet, too soft. It will take Pruitt a couple of years to change the loser culture......5 or 6 wins max.
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I disagree with this. A lot of the returning guys are a year removed from back to back 9 win seasons. The grad transfers have won prior to being here, plus a third of the roster didn't play under Butch so the losing culture or mindset isn't there with them. We may not know how to play at an elite level, but the majority have experienced some winning success.
 
#147
#147
Has any team that went winless in the sec won 9+ the next season? I don’t know so I’m asking. Right now I have us at 5.5 for the over/under
 
#148
#148
Every time I watch practice clips I up it by one, so all of the wins! I can't help it my I get too excited early on so until such time as we taste defeat, WGWTA all season long.
 
#149
#149
stevenrich2003 said:
To add a little to this. We should have beaten Florida last year. We missed 3 field goals.... We were clearly the better football team.
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Agreed..Plus 1st and Goal at the one and Dormady got intercepted at the Goal Line as part of his 3 Interception's. Fla has no clue about their QB and went through the exact same changes we did. Thy are a mess right now with this off the field stuff. Butch and Dooley found ways to lose Fla but the ones saying we lose because of past results is crazy. Can't judge what a new staff will do based off the previous 2, who had no business being HC's. Same with Mizzou. They have a First Time OC Derek Dooley and not one of their 7 wins was against a team with a winning record. That's almost impossible to do. W.Va had a worst Defense than us and have a QB returning from season ending surgery. They are undersized as a team with very little overall talent. They can be very one dimensional and turnover prone. Hell we aren't talking about 3 teams coming off great years. Two were 7-6 and the other was 4-7. No way should Vol fans expect those 3 to be losses, especially when we will have home field advantage in all 3. Too many are basing it off us being 4-8, which anyone with sense can see it's not a 4-8 roster or coaching staff. If Butch was here then definitely 4-8 or 5-7 tools but he's long done. I may be completely wrong, but anything less than 6 wins isn't happening. 6 is the floor and 8-9 with a bowl is the ceiling. Can't tell me the recruiting services missed so badly on the majority of our recruits. 45% of our 85 man roster were *4 or *5 on atleast one of the services. With the importance we place on star Rankings, no Vol fan or anyone else can say we don't have talent to win 7+ games this year. Only Ala, Ga and Aub are ranked ahead of us with overall recruiting rankings. Difference now is we have an elite coaching staff now. I refuse to believe we only win 4-5 max. Butch did that with the dumpster fire of all dumpster fires and still was 3 plays from being 7-5.
 
#150
#150
bigdaddy said:
Has any team that went winless in the sec won 9+ the next season? I don’t know so I’m asking. Right now I have us at 5.5 for the over/under
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Auburn went 3-9 0-8 , then the next season they had a Coaching change and were 1 last minute TD from winning the BCS Championship. They finished
12-2 7-1..Obviously we aren't playing for a Championship of any kind but those type turnaround's happen more than you think. Mich St the last 2 years is another example. Last year they went 10-3 after going 3-9 and 1-8 in the conf the prior year. 2014 Mich went 5-7, next 10-4 the next year. 2016 Iowa St was 3-9, then went 8-5 the next.Fla Atl was 3-9 in '16 then went 11-3 the next after a coaching change. '14 Colo was 4-9, the next year 10-4. UCF went from 6-7 to 13-0 the following year. Mizzou was 5-7 their first yr in the SEC, the next year they went 12-2 and won the East. So it's definitely not uncommon and shows how much difference a coaching change can make.
 
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